Any info on the Zeiss v8 4.8-35x60mm?
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6and7, can you confirm or correct B&H's specs that the windage and elevation adjustments are 52MOA? With a 34mm (or is it 36mm? Zeiss and B&H differ on this) main-tube diameter, the gross elevation change ought to be around 100MOA...so maybe the specs are 52MOA from center?
Have since determined that the scope indeed has a 36mm tube.
Ledd Slinger
Silver $$ Contributor
Big swing an miss by Zeiss. Great optics and mag range for LR shooting but horrible turrets and hardly any elevation adjustment. Beautiful view, but not so great for dialing in long range shots.
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Intell
Silver $$ Contributor
I use a Zeiss V8 1.8-14 on my deer gun and I love it. To me it’s the perfect balance, low power for 10yd shots and 14x is more than enough top end for me.
It has a rain coating for wet lenses also. This is very important to me on rainy days because I don’t use a blind.
I used my NF NX8 1-8 one year and it was great, until it got wet and couldn’t see a damn thing through it.
As said above though, the turrets are not that great for dialing. Mine are the capped short ones.
I do think they make a version with larger turrets.
The 36mm tube is a pig.
It has a rain coating for wet lenses also. This is very important to me on rainy days because I don’t use a blind.
I used my NF NX8 1-8 one year and it was great, until it got wet and couldn’t see a damn thing through it.
As said above though, the turrets are not that great for dialing. Mine are the capped short ones.
I do think they make a version with larger turrets.
The 36mm tube is a pig.
TY all.. I think Ledd's comment--big swing and miss by Zeiss--is quite appropriate.. I was really looking for a hi-power scope with a simple reticle--to replace my Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30X56X34.. The Zeiss probably is the one optically and with TWO excellent, simple reticles, but it's sure not in respect of point-of-impact-adjustment ranges.. Since my post yesterday, I've calculated that the vertical-adjustement range is 48MOA (total).. I wonder why they bothered.. AND $4K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I'm keeping my Trij.
So I'm keeping my Trij.
Ledd Slinger
Silver $$ Contributor
I’ve had that same exact Trijicon 4.5-30x56mm for a handful of years now. But mine was the first model named “Accupower”. Same scope, they just changed the name to “Tenmile” when they incorporated it into that new line of optics. That scope is as rugged as they come with tons of elevation, top notch turrets, awesome zero stop and amazing glass, especially in low light. Truly a masterful design and execution for a long range optic.
I doubt the Zeiss would even be much of a gain optically over the Triji 4.5-30. Would have to put them side by side in all lighting and weather conditions. As I’m sure you know, the Triji is no slouch optically. But even if the Zeiss edged out the Triji optically, it would be only a very slight advantage. I would no doubt stick with the Triji. Other than the slight chance the Zeiss may have a touch better glass, the Trijicon is a far superior optic in every other aspect.
I also have the Trijicon 4-24x50 Tenmile in 30mm tube. Way lighter weight than the bigger 4.5-30x56 with 34mm tube. Optically the 4-24x is excellent and appears to be the same excellent quality but I have only just mounted on a rifle. Haven’t put it thru the paces yet but I’m sure it will be a top notch optic as well.
Turbulent Turtle
F-TR competitor
I look at the link that was supplied @jeffreybehr in another thread.
The scope in question is a huge scope for not a lot of magnification. 35X with 35 ounces, a 60mm objective and 16 inches in length.
It's a second focal plane with a MIL reticle and MIL turrets. Since the adjustment range is said to be 130cm @ 100m, that is equivalent to 13MIL, very narrow indeed. Their documentation does say it's enough to get to 600M, and that's about right.
The click adjustment is .05MIL/click which will screw you up in F-class. That's like .18 MOA or some weird number. I always felt that MIL belongs on a FFP an MOA belongs on an SFP. They mixed it.
I would suspect however, that the IQ of that scope may be out of this world. This is only the second riflescope I have seen with fluorite glass, even if Zeiss says it's "fluoride glasses."
When looking at the field of view, they list it as being from 8.6 to 1.2 meters (ignore the conversion they offer in feet.) That is excellent, some of the widest FOV for those magnifications I have seen. For comparison, the March-FX 5-42X56 with the Wide Angle eyepiece has 8.73m at 5X (a little wider than the Zeiss even at 4.8X) and 1.08m at 42X. The Zeiss says 1.2M at 35X. So this Zeiss has good FOV, much wider than most other scopes in that class.
I like the fancy illuminated dot control on the Zeiss. I just never use illumination in F-class.
$4,000 at Amazon.
The scope in question is a huge scope for not a lot of magnification. 35X with 35 ounces, a 60mm objective and 16 inches in length.
It's a second focal plane with a MIL reticle and MIL turrets. Since the adjustment range is said to be 130cm @ 100m, that is equivalent to 13MIL, very narrow indeed. Their documentation does say it's enough to get to 600M, and that's about right.
The click adjustment is .05MIL/click which will screw you up in F-class. That's like .18 MOA or some weird number. I always felt that MIL belongs on a FFP an MOA belongs on an SFP. They mixed it.
I would suspect however, that the IQ of that scope may be out of this world. This is only the second riflescope I have seen with fluorite glass, even if Zeiss says it's "fluoride glasses."
When looking at the field of view, they list it as being from 8.6 to 1.2 meters (ignore the conversion they offer in feet.) That is excellent, some of the widest FOV for those magnifications I have seen. For comparison, the March-FX 5-42X56 with the Wide Angle eyepiece has 8.73m at 5X (a little wider than the Zeiss even at 4.8X) and 1.08m at 42X. The Zeiss says 1.2M at 35X. So this Zeiss has good FOV, much wider than most other scopes in that class.
I like the fancy illuminated dot control on the Zeiss. I just never use illumination in F-class.
$4,000 at Amazon.
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Turbulent Turtle
F-TR competitor
I have been doing some research and I will share my findings.
As you might remember, I was impressed by what I believed to be the use by Zeiss of fluorite crystal glass in this scope. Up to now, I had only been aware of one riflescope that actually used pure fluorite crystal glass; the Airbus scope called and Hensoldt or some such. I'll look it up in a bit. I remember that scope costing upwards of $5700.
After some research I am now of the belief that Zeiss is NOT using pure fluorite crystal glass, but rather is using a type of glass that has some amount of fluorite in it. This type of glass is commonly known as ED glass. Super ED glass, currently only used by March, has an even greater amount of fluorite in it, in fact getting very close to pure fluorite crystal glass without the drawbacks such as fragility, cost and so on. Well, Super ED glass does cost quite a bit more than non Super ED glass, but it's not at pure fluorite crystal glass level.
Also, the $4000 cost of the Zeiss is much more in line with other ED glass scopes and perhaps even Super ED glass ones. When one looks at the cost of camera lenses that have pure fluorite elements in them, the cost is astronomical compared to other lenses and they really only use fluorite glass in lenses that are really bending the light, in other words, long telephoto lenses.
Bottom line, I think that Zeiss is finally starting to use ED glass in the Victory, but I may be wrong.
As you might remember, I was impressed by what I believed to be the use by Zeiss of fluorite crystal glass in this scope. Up to now, I had only been aware of one riflescope that actually used pure fluorite crystal glass; the Airbus scope called and Hensoldt or some such. I'll look it up in a bit. I remember that scope costing upwards of $5700.
After some research I am now of the belief that Zeiss is NOT using pure fluorite crystal glass, but rather is using a type of glass that has some amount of fluorite in it. This type of glass is commonly known as ED glass. Super ED glass, currently only used by March, has an even greater amount of fluorite in it, in fact getting very close to pure fluorite crystal glass without the drawbacks such as fragility, cost and so on. Well, Super ED glass does cost quite a bit more than non Super ED glass, but it's not at pure fluorite crystal glass level.
Also, the $4000 cost of the Zeiss is much more in line with other ED glass scopes and perhaps even Super ED glass ones. When one looks at the cost of camera lenses that have pure fluorite elements in them, the cost is astronomical compared to other lenses and they really only use fluorite glass in lenses that are really bending the light, in other words, long telephoto lenses.
Bottom line, I think that Zeiss is finally starting to use ED glass in the Victory, but I may be wrong.
Ledd Slinger
Silver $$ Contributor
When talking in the price range of the Zeiss V8, I would probably be inclined to spend a little more money on the Swarovski DS 5-35x52 P rangefinding scope just so I could see what that monster is all about. Haven’t seen any around my part of the woods yet
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