Another Criterion Success Story

[Hondo64d]

I’ve had four Criterion Barrels, every one of them being better shooters than any other brand I’ve had. One of them was the heavy varmint contour, the other two light varmint contour. I observed that my light varmint .308 and 22-250 barrels grouped as well as my heavy varmint contour 6.5x47 barrel, so I thought for the 4th I’d try a light varmint 6.5x47 to see what’s up. It has not disappointed, grouping every bit as good as the heavy varmint contour.

Here’s two five shot groups shot during load development. They are consecutive charges .4gr apart. The first measured .356” and the second .346”. When I overlaid the aiming points, the ten shots completely overlapped, clustering 10 shots into .4”.

I’m thinking my next one might be the heavy sporter contour...

I love Criterion Barrels...

John

 

[boltfluter]

Very nice. And some very good shooting on your part.

Paul

 

[hoz53]

I’ve had four Criterion Barrels, every one of them being better shooters than any other brand I’ve had. One of them was the heavy varmint contour, the other two light varmint contour. I observed that my light varmint .308 and 22-250 barrels grouped as well as my heavy varmint contour 6.5x47 barrel, so I thought for the 4th I’d try a light varmint 6.5x47 to see what’s up. It has not disappointed, grouping every bit as good as the heavy varmint contour.

Here’s two five shot groups shot during load development. They are consecutive charges .4gr apart. The first measured .356” and the second .346”. When I overlaid the aiming points, the ten shots completely overlapped, clustering 10 shots into .4”.

I’m thinking my next one might be the heavy sporter contour...

I love Criterion Barrels...

John

these are savage?--remage?-- i had a criterion remage in 6br-8 HV i sold unfired. probably should have kept it. nice shooting--

 

[Hondo64d]

these are savage?--remage?-- i had a criterion remage in 6br-8 HV i sold unfired. probably should have kept it. nice shooting--

Savage prefit on Shilen DGR action in MPA BA Lite chassis.

John

 

[Texas10]

Every time I just get to thinking I can almost shoot with you fellas, someone posts a group they shot at a thousand yards, with holes touching no less, and i just want to throw my hands up and sell the whole shoot'n match.

 

[hoz53]

Savage prefit on Shilen DGR action in MPA BA Lite chassis.

John

well no wonder it shoots so good. try one of those barrels on a box stock savage action and see how it shoots. would be interesting.

 

[DHuffman]

I just built a 6.5 Creedmoor on a new Remington 700 action and used a 24" CRI Remage barrel and NSS nut. Put it in a Magpul Hunter stock and put a 4-16x44 Bushnell Engage scope on it.

Used some 2+ year old Winchester 140 match ammo to sight in & zero scope.

I built it to raffle off to raise money for an employees wife who is battling cancer for the second time.

Rifle shot extremely well IMHO the CRI barrels are better than nice. I fired one shot and ran a couple patches then 2 & 3 were touching. Then I cleaned and aimed at a very small smudge on the paper and shot 5 more. It was a 3 in 2 out group that could be covered by a quarter. The 3 in obviously could hide under a dime.

 

[DHuffman]

well no wonder it shoots so good. try one of those barrels on a box stock savage action and see how it shoots. would be interesting.

They shoot lights out, I've done several.

Here's a 28" CRI in 6br on a late 70s Savage intermediate action. 200 yards!

I think they're as good as a Shilen Select Match plus the have a caliber stamp on the barrel that goes around it.

 

[Damon555]

I've got 2 Criterion barrels.....A 223 AI and a 6XC, both of them screwed on factory Savage short actions. While not quite up to that level of accuracy they aren't far behind. Let's just say that they are boringly accurate....so much so that shooting at 100 or 200 yards is not really a challenge. For the 300-350 price range, ready to screw on and shoot barrel they are a great value IMO.

 

[hoz53]

They shoot lights out, I've done several.

Here's a 28" CRI in 6br on a late 70s Savage intermediate action. 200 yards!

so i have heard--wonder if its worth buying the shilen action.

 

[DHuffman]

Savage prefit on Shilen DGR action in MPA BA Lite chassis.

John

Very nice shooting!

 

[memilanuk]

well no wonder it shoots so good. try one of those barrels on a box stock savage action and see how it shoots. would be interesting.

They shoot lights out, I've done several.

I might be mistaken, but I think what he was implying was "take that same barrel, and stick it on a Savage action, and see if it shoots any better or worse". Normally you can't do that because of the thread pattern mis-match between Savage and Rem-age pre-fits, but if you have an action that *does* use Savage thread pattern... it would be a very interesting experiment.

 

[hoz53]

I might be mistaken, but I think what he was implying was "take that same barrel, and stick it on a Savage action, and see if it shoots any better or worse". Normally you can't do that because of the thread pattern mis-match between Savage and Rem-age pre-fits, but if you have an action that *does* use Savage thread pattern... it would be a very interesting experiment.

I think he meant he used savage actions in that post and used a remage for another rifle that was raffled and thats what he was talking about in the other post. yes i meant trying a stock savage compared to the shilen with savage threads with the same barrel

 

[DHuffman]

I've done the Criterion barrels on Savage & Remington actions many times. They are a good barrel and a huge upgrade on either action.

 

[DHuffman]

I think he meant he used savage actions in that post and used a remage for another rifle that was raffled and thats what he was talking about in the other post. yes i meant trying a stock savage compared to the shilen with savage threads with the same barrel

I see what you're saying but don't have a Shilen action laying around to test with.

 

[DHuffman]

so i have heard--wonder if its worth buying the shilen action.

That would be up to each individual obviously. I'd love to have a Shilen or Big Horn action to screw Savage prefits on but so far the cost has not been worth it to me.

That rifle above is an old model 112 single shot intermediate action. I put together another newer model 112 single shot long action that I haven't got around to testing yet but know it will one hole as well when I get the load tuned. Paid $500- $600 each on GB then sold off barrels, stocks etc to further cheapen them up.

This one's a 6.5x47 Lapua Shilen Select Match I've shot before on another action. I went with the single shot Savage actions so I could get all my good barrels mounted up on good actions without breaking the bank.

 

[hoz53]

That would be up to each individual obviously. I'd love to have a Shilen or Big Horn action to screw Savage prefits on but so far the cost has not been worth it to me.

That rifle above is an old model 112 single shot intermediate action. I put together another newer model 112 single shot long action that I haven't got around to testing yet but know it will one hole as well when I get the load tuned. Paid $500- $600 each on GB then sold off barrels, stocks etc to further cheapen them up.

This one's a 6.5x47 Lapua Shilen Select Match I've shot before on another action. I went with the single shot Savage actions so I could get all my good barrels mounted up on good actions without breaking the bank.

thanks for the explanation--yes i agree worth it would be in the eye of the beholder. if im shooting 1/2 groups or better at 100 with a stock savage action it would not be worth it to me to buy the shilen. Have you found the remages are generally just as accurate as the savages?

 

[DHuffman]

thanks for the explanation--yes i agree worth it would be in the eye of the beholder. if im shooting 1/2 groups or better at 100 with a stock savage action it would not be worth it to me to buy the shilen. Have you found the remages are generally just as accurate as the savages?

I couldn't honestly say. All the Remages have been for friends so other than doing a quick break in with factory ammo I haven't shot them. They won't shoot with my Savages but we're talking different shooter different reloader etc. I'd like to think the Savage has the advantage with the floating bolt head but have 0 data or proof of it.

 

[Hondo64d]

I couldn't honestly say. All the Remages have been for friends so other than doing a quick break in with factory ammo I haven't shot them. They won't shoot with my Savages but we're talking different shooter different reloader etc. I'd like to think the Savage has the advantage with the floating bolt head but have 0 data or proof of it.

The Shilen DGR also has a floating bolt head and mine shoots better than any rig I’ve ever had and I’ve had several put together by some of the best smiths in the industry.

I do think there is something to the floating bolt head...

John

 

[KMart]

The one thing that will make the Shilen & Remington better than the Savage is the fact that a Jewell trigger can be installed on the Shilen & Remington. That in itself can improve groups. I have all 3 actions and my 6 Dasher Savage with a Jard trigger and Shilen barrel shoots very well but the Jewell triggers on the other 2 makes a difference. The Jard is a 4-6 oz trigger but you have to pay attention with it. It doesn't break as crisply as the Jewell.