Darn guys!! I just went through 3,000-4,000 cases left over from my last match from muti people and the most impressive thing I noticed was "how much pressure that darn Palma case can handle!!" I found about 8 260 Ackley Improved cases made from Palma brass and I couldn't believe the primer flow on all of them! This should be about the primers I guess since they performed as strong as they did as well.. The primer craters were stuck out a full "1mm" at least! Their was also very shiny ejector marks located on each case.. I bet this certain guy was running a 140gr bullet over 3,000fps with H4350!! I also found some standard primer Lapua brass in formed to 243 Ackley I think.. The neck was longer with this 243 brass compared to the formed 260 brass.. The 260 Ackley Improved cases had very short necks.. Also I found a good bit of Winchester 6.5 Creedmoore cases.. Has anyone used or heard anything about these Winchester brand Creedmoor cases?? If they are like other Winchester cases they should be harder pockets than the soft Hornady stuff??