Advice on Potential Defect on New Model 70 Supergrade

[CJ1990]

Hello there. New to the forum. I bought a Model 70 Supergrade a couple of weeks back. Haven’t had a chance to take it out and shoot it yet, but I was just looking down the chamber and noticed what looks to be a defect/noticeable raised mark on the front right face of the chamber right before the bore begins. I took a q-tip and rubbed it to see if it was possibly just lint or something, but it indeed seems to be part of the steel.

Is this something I should be concerned about? Safety-wise, accuracy-wise, etc.? I’m speaking to someone at Winchester tomorrow, but I’d appreciate any insight or advice in the interim. TIA.

 

[DaveTooley]

It appears to be the extractor cut. Shouldn't be a problem.

 

[CJ1990]

It appears to be the extractor cut. Shouldn't be a problem.

Hmm, well I’ll certainly feel like an idiot if that’s the case haha. It just looks like an out-of-place abrupt divot/nick in the metal to my naked eye. Doesn’t seem like something intentional, but maybe it is and I’m just ignorant hah.

 

[Walt Krafft]

You didn't say what cartridge it is chambered in. Do cases chamber and extract as they should?

 

[K22]

I'd first contact the Mfg. and explain the issue then ask for their recommendation.

However, as Walt Krafft implied, if cases chamber and extract without issue and there is no evidence of gouging the cases you are probably ok.

 

[CJ1990]

You didn't say what cartridge it is chambered in. Do cases chamber and extract as they should?

It is chambered in .270, and cases seem to chamber from the magazine and extract without issue. If I just drop a round in the chamber without pushing it into the magazine, the bolt will not close, which I assume is normal given the CRF.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Unless you want to send it back for a while id scrape that off with a needle file or emory cloth. I bet itll gouge your brass but not cause any other issue. Youre dealing with a mass produced gun and theres going to be little stuff like that, but the mfr will want to see it because of liability if you call them. If you cant scrape that nub loose run it by a gunsmith and theyll do it real quick

 

[CJ1990]

Unless you want to send it back for a while id scrape that off with a needle file or emory cloth. I bet itll gouge your brass but not cause any other issue. Youre dealing with a mass produced gun and theres going to be little stuff like that, but the mfr will want to see it because of liability if you call them. If you cant scrape that nub loose run it by a gunsmith and theyll do it real quick

Thanks. I guess the issue I see is that, assuming it’s not done by design, it’s more of a gouge than it is a burr (i.e., recessed/cut not raised). Dunno if that makes a difference. If it won’t have any ill effect safety or performance-wise, it doesn’t bother me because, like you said, it’s a production gun that might have small imperfections.

I’m very curious though if this is just how post-2013 Model 70 barrels are cut on the face - tried to find any relevant pictures online, but to no avail.

 

[brcman]

cj1990- what state do you live in, I ask because a friend had a problem with a new Winchester. He took it to their repair station in Arnold Missouri.

 

[CJ1990]

cj1990- what state do you live in, I ask because a friend had a problem with a new Winchester. He took it to their repair station in Arnold Missouri.

I’m in Central Texas, so quite a ways from Missouri, unfortunately.

 

[Brians356]

I’m in Central Texas, so quite a ways from Missouri, unfortunately.

Waddya mean? You only need to cut across a corner of Oklahoma to reach Missouri. Many of us are half a continent away. Sheesh.
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[Dusty Stevens]

Thanks. I guess the issue I see is that, assuming it’s not done by design, it’s more of a gouge than it is a burr (i.e., recessed/cut not raised). Dunno if that makes a difference. If it won’t have any ill effect safety or performance-wise, it doesn’t bother me because, like you said, it’s a production gun that might have small imperfections.

I’m very curious though if this is just how post-2013 Model 70 barrels are cut on the face - tried to find any relevant pictures online, but to no avail.

All control round feed winchester actions have that cut on the barrel. The older ones you mentioned are probably push feed

 

[jackieschmidt]

Steel is known to have “bad spots”, but they are rare.

it could be something as simple as a worker putting a little gouge in the extractor cutout when he deburred that slot.

As Dusty said, it’s a massed produced product. Things like that are of little consequence.

I have seen a lot worse things than that on modern Winchester rifles.

 

[CJ1990]

Thanks for the help everyone! All of the input is much appreciated.

 

[Prose]

I think your issue is repair worthy and winchester will probably pay for it. It's a blemish that a tiny file will make go away.

Your action should close on a round that has been chambered. The counterbore should have been cut to allow that. If it does not close after that little bur is fixed than the gun has compound issues

 

[CJ1990]

I think your issue is repair worthy and winchester will probably pay for it. It's a blemish that a tiny file will make go away.

Your action should close on a round that has been chambered. The counterbore should have been cut to allow that. If it does not close after that little bur is fixed than the gun has compound issues

Thanks for the reply. The guy I spoke with at the Missouri facility said that it should be an extractor cut, and I shouldn’t have an issue.

Regarding the chambering, it functions perfectly from the mag, but dropping a round in without pushing it into the mag so the extractor grabs it does not allow me to close the bolt fully. The Winchester rep also said that is normal due to the controlled-round feed.

 

[Doug Casner]

Old Mauser feed. My dad is a model 70 man and he told me when I was a kid ,put the shell in the magazine to load the chamber. Doug