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I know elisios are a great option but curious if anyone has any experience converting a mpa chasis to an across the course rifle
I saw a master shooter work his stick shift Win model 70 as smooth and slick as greased owl poop. That's why he was a master knocking on the high master door.I would think it could work pretty darn well. I thought about just that, but will stay with an AR. Just too easy in rapids, compared to a stick shift for rapids.
Do you shoot an AR match rifle or service ? If match would like to see a photo to get some ideasI would think it could work pretty darn well. I thought about just that, but will stay with an AR. Just too easy in rapids, compared to a stick shift for rapids.
Do you shoot an AR match rifle or service ? If match would like to see a photo to get some ideas

I have almost the same but with a different grip and adjustable stock. I've come within a couple of points to clean the rapids with this set up. I recently ditched the sights and put a scope on it. Haven't tried it in a match yet.View attachment 1382994
Look at white oak armament or compass lake. Adjustable handstop and the foreend can be rotated for comfort for your wrist. The stock is Adjustable to for length of pull, cheek height.
I'd look for a side charger.
Yah, as Tom posted above. White oak Match rifle, get the 6 way adjustable buttplate and go shoot. 2.25 or 2.5” front hand guard is about the only option you need to choose. I started with a STAC 3-16 and shot several 790+ scores. Great shooting rifles and VERY reliable, especially in 223.Do you shoot an AR match rifle or service ? If match would like to see a photo to get some ideas
To be fair though, this guy hasn't been able to score better than a 798 in OTC with his AR, so maybe take his advice with a grain of salt.Yah, as Tom posted above. White oak Match rifle, get the 6 way adjustable buttplate and go shoot. 2.25 or 2.5” front hand guard is about the only option you need to choose. I started with a STAC 3-16 and shot several 790+ scores. Great shooting rifles and VERY reliable, especially in 223.
I somewhat did the same this year. Shot my first match with the stick shift in June and had some struggles in rapid fire. Come September and I decided to shoot it again in our last match of the year after spending a few hours on the scatt. I was real happy with the result, shot a 785 (my second best xtc score to date) and now I'm hooked, lol. I do have a 260 AR10 spacegun I just finished if I feel the need for more horsepower though.In many years past, I went from an automatic transmission (AR Service Rifle), to a stick (bolt), watching those guys run that stick shift with precision was so cool. I got pretty darn good at it, but it took lots and lots of practice, I had my share of letting up on the clutch too fast and ended up with a FTE or FTF.
All in all, it was fun, but, an AR Match rifle added many points to my scores, better sights, better unbreakable position and more time to get on and stay on the target.
+1 785 is excellent shooting, I was able to shoot Master scores, standing was my nemesis, dropped too many points there. High 90’s in rapids and mid 90’s @ 600.… I was real happy with the result, shoot a 785…
Scope is the way to go now. Standing is actually where I won that match, 194-5x. The higher magnification scope, faster lock time, and 6-way stock really make it easier for me. It also helps that I have a scatt and was able to practice a bunch of standing in my basement.+1 785 is excellent shooting, I was able to shoot Master scores, standing was my nemesis, dropped too many points there. High 90’s in rapids and mid 90’s @ 600.
As I got older I had more and more trouble focusing on the front sight and had to get special diopter glasses to focus there, then again the target got even more fuzzy. Getting old sucks. F Class is my game now.
I shot only irons in XTC, first SR, then Match Bolt and AR guns (which helped the front sight focus). Scopes came in after I moved on to Prone Iron's then finally F Class. I would imagine that scopes are a real benefit have some magnification and not having to align the front and rear sights.Scope is the way to go now. Standing is actually where I won that match, 194-5x. The higher magnification scope, faster lock time, and 6-way stock really make it easier for me. It also helps that I have a scatt and was able to practice a bunch of standing in my basement.
