Nomad47 said:
How come you didn't call them Salvages when you owned them, Big?
Cuz I was under the spell that less was more. They were cheap and easy to customize. Key word "were".
Once I started customizing other actions I realized I should have been spending my money on Jewell trigger friendly actions all along. Even if you don't factor in the horrible Savage trigger design, just about everything else out there feels more solid and cycles more smoothly than standard Savage action.
Savage was introduced as an entry level rifle many years ago and it cornered the market of affordable firearms for hunting. Now they have changed almost nothing except for waste money on a horrible trigger re-design (accu-trigger) and now they want to charge just as much, or more, than any other manufacturer for one of their rifles. The fact still remains that Savage is NOTHING MORE THAN A CHEAP ENTRY LEVEL RIFLE. That does not mean they are not accurate, it just means that their design is completely geared towards cost effectiveness in mass production and it clearly shows with their loose fitting die cast components.
Everyone always says "oh the floating bolt head and barrel nut are so good"...That is only because Savage doesn't want to have to get their recess lug abutments on the action true or mess up on headspacing. Sure those designs work, but it is in place on savage rifles ONLY because it makes it twice as fast to produce and still shoot half-way decent. Not because it is better than traditional tube action designs
The Ruger American and Thompson Center Venture are both entry level rifles that have twice the quality of a Savage hunting rifle.
You can spend $200 on a used Stevens rifle, or you can spend $1200 on a Savage Long Range Hunter. You still basically have the same crappy rifle with slightly different crappy triggers and perhaps a better barrel on the LRH, maybe a better stock too, but all Savage syn stocks are junk. Funny thing is that whether you spend a little or a lot on a Savage, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of times the accuracy is roughly the same in both.
NOW, all that being said.....I think Savage is a very good rifle for the right price. The right price IMO was when they were charging $300-$400 for a new rifle. For the price they charge now, you might as well get a Tikka, Sako A7, Rem 700 (excluding SPS), Thompson Icon, etc