Accuracy/Form Issue (Pics Added)

[TheBig1]

I understand that I need to pick up and read a few books, I plan on doing that ASAP. I am at the range this morning, and I've noticed it before with this rifle, and I'm continuously impacting to the right of my target about an inch.

The last time that I was here about 2 weeks ago I was dead on. And no, my scope hasn't been bumped. I'm thinking that it has to do with my form.

Of course it'll kill anything but being the perfectionist that I am I require better results.

Any opinions on what might be going on?

Chad

 

[dickn52]

This is the pistol image, but it applies.

 

[TheBig1]

Thanks Dick, but if anything I should be shooting left instead.

 

[dickn52]

If you say so. Good luck.

 

[22BRGUY]

Thanks Dick, but if anything I should be shooting left instead.

Please explain why

 

[Chuckhunter]

Could be a lot of different things. My guess would be a tracking problem in your bag setup, especially if you are shooting a hunting stock with a thin for end, also if the rifle has a check piece, it may be hitting the ear of the rear bag. I use an accuracy asset when working on hunting loads to give me a wider and more stable front end and my hunting rifles all have stocks with a straight comb, no cheek piece or monte carlo.

 

[dickn52]

We all do it differently and to be honest there probably isn't a right or wrong, as long as you are consistent all the way. That photo is an attempt to fix the most common error of finger placement, and I have used it for about 30 years or so as a DI/Range Master/Instructor to explain what happens. BUT I concede it does not fix all horizontal issues. There is nothing wrong in using a different way to get it done.

 

[TheBig1]

We all do it differently and to be honest there probably isn't a right or wrong, as long as you are consistent all the way. That photo is an attempt to fix the most common error of finger placement, and I have used it for about 30 years or so as a DI/Range Master/Instructor to explain what happens. BUT I concede it does not fix all horizontal issues. There is nothing wrong in using a different way to get it done.

Dick, I appreciate it. The reason I said that I should be shooting left is that I noticed sometimes my finger was barely on the trigger due to me trying to get a tight and firm platform on my bags.

 

[TheBig1]

Please explain why

Read the post I just replied to Dick.

 

[TheBig1]

Could be a lot of different things. My guess would be a tracking problem in your bag setup, especially if you are shooting a hunting stock with a thin for end, also if the rifle has a check piece, it may be hitting the ear of the rear bag. I use an accuracy asset when working on hunting loads to give me a wider and more stable front end and my hunting rifles all have stocks with a straight comb, no cheek piece or monte carlo.

My bags are old school denim jeans bags that are most likely older than I am at 40. I have to fold and stack two together to get the proper setup. For the front I'm using the bipod on my rifle and either holding the leg while loading the bipod or pulling tight on the sling.

My groups are sub-MOA but it's just not shooting where I want it.

I adjusted the scope after groups and it either stayed or jumps to the other side. It sounds like a scope problem but this has happened before and then the last time that I was out it was dead on which makes it seem like a shooting form issue.

Chad

 

[Immike]

Dick, I appreciate it. The reason I said that I should be shooting left is that I noticed sometimes my finger was barely on the trigger due to me trying to get a tight and firm platform on my bags.

Pretty common for tight holds to fatigue to another impact. Study yourself and try a more relaxed shooting form that you can sustain.

 

[CJ6]

Cheek pressure ?

 

[John from MN]

Do you dry fire? I shoot almost exclusively from prone, so my experience may not apply, but dry firing while keeping sight picture will often tell me if my booger hook or muscle tension (mild flinch) is the problem.

 

[TheBig1]

Do you dry fire? I shoot almost exclusively from prone, so my experience may not apply, but dry firing while keeping sight picture will often tell me if my booger hook or muscle tension (mild flinch) is the problem.

I thought that you weren't supposed to dry fire a rifle?

 

[John from MN]

Rimfire guns require a snap cap to prevent chamber and possibly firing pin damage. I'm not aware of any modern centerfire rifle that could be damaged by dry firing, but you could certainly research the subject.

I'd hate to guess the number of times some of my 700's have been dry fired. It's normally how I warm up before doing load work.

 

[Immike]

My bags are old school denim jeans bags that are most likely older than I am at 40. I have to fold and stack two together to get the proper setup. For the front I'm using the bipod on my rifle and either holding the leg while loading the bipod or pulling tight on the sling.

My groups are sub-MOA but it's just not shooting where I want it.

I adjusted the scope after groups and it either stayed or jumps to the other side. It sounds like a scope problem but this has happened before and then the last time that I was out it was dead on which makes it seem like a shooting form issue.

Chad

You need a rear bag partner. Try a Seb or any other top brand, buy a good one don't skimp. Lol

 

[TheBig1]

You need a rear bag partner. Try a Seb or any other top brand, buy a good one don't skimp. Lol

Where do you buy a SEB and what are the other "Good" brands? And what does a SEB Bigfoot cost?

 

[davidpatton]

I started precision shooting with a walmart remington 770, on a bipod and a sock full of sand in the rear. It didn't take long to figure out that the level of precision I was looking for couldn't be obtained with this equipment. Sure you can shoot good groups but if you are like me and want to know why every shot hit where it did, you need a more controlled setup. I'm not going to go into every detail, there's a search button for that, but I will say gun handling is one of if not the most important factors in accuracy. Get yourself a good rear bag, and some sort of front rest. Once you have technique down pat then start working on ammo improvements or fine tuning. It doesn't happen over night and range time is your best friend. Before you will ever be confident enough to dial in a load or make some kind of change, you first have to be confident enough to know you are not the problem. Get some good rests, and shoot, shoot, shoot.

 

[Immike]

Where do you buy a SEB and what are the other "Good" brands? And what does a SEB Bigfoot cost?

Good question, brands and shopping , I better let the helpful provide that info. The post above is solid info. Btw. I started with stuff too (denim bags) it's fine but a distraction.

 

[TheBig1]

Here's what I'm talking about. The two fliers were my fouling shots. The two good ones, right after. This was about two weeks ago.

Again, a few weeks ago. Shooting just right, could be me.

Today's test loads. Not worried about shooting low, they're reduced loads. Was shooting for groups. But notice how they're an inch or more right. You can see that after shooting the first three loads that I adjusted my scope 4 clicks, which is an inch, and then shot about an inch left on my last three loads.

My go to load, shot today. I did move my scope 4 clicks, which should equal 1", yet now shot to the left about an inch. This group is 0.1845 at 100 yards.