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A discussion for BDC reticle nerds....

Starting this topic for those of us BDC nerds who have had good results calibrating their reticle for their ammo to work for them. We don't get to choose where the hashmarks are etched or what subtension they represent, and we don't get to choose what distance the aiming reference is for....the ammo does. We have to do the calibrations by chronographing the ammo and collecting data to input into a ballistic calculator and then figuring out how it corresponds with the funny reticle they gave us. It requires a lot of work in order for them to be useful or have a purpose, and each new ammo type means recalibration and copious calculations. It's a funny thing we do

I'll start. I have an LPVO with a BDC reticle with hashmarks designated by the factory for 300, 400, and 500 yards. I chrono'd 12 different ammo types and each one didn't come close enough for me to legitimize the hashmarks for the distance their "supposed to be"...except one. Disclaimer..I didn't waste 11 other types of ammo just to see which one played the best for my reticle. It was a test of 12 ammo types to see which one my rifle liked best and was the most accurate. Whichever one that was, would just have to do with the BDC, even if that meant 300, 400, and 500 was actually 267, 419, 526....etc. By some amazing stroke of luck, the most accurate ammo (sub-MOA) in my gun had the neccesary MV, BC, bullet weight along with the sight height, barrel length, and my zero range, so it's ballistics worked out where 300, 400, and 500 were just that, within ,15 MOA in the calculator. That's acceptable to me at any distances. That's BETTER than me too. If I miss an 10" steel plate at 500 yards using the correct calibrated holdover, it's MY fault, not my gun, my reticle, or my calculations.

Would I prefer just having a scope with a Christmas Tree reticle with numbered mils or moa hashmarks instead of some weird reticle someone designed with some undisclosed caliber and ammo type? Yes and no. Not for this particular rifle who's scope's BDC is matched to the ammo through tests and luck. Now I just have to worry about that ammo running out. If it does, I'll just have to make them.

Stag 15 AR15 5.56 16"
Vortex Venom LPVO 1-6x24
ARBDC-3 reticle
Frontier 75gr 5.56
 

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I'll go again. I have a 1.5-5.5 Scout Scope with a BDC reticle. The reticle manual suggests that the 1st hashmark should be 305 yards for a particular caliber (308 Win) zero'd at 100 yards...410 yards for the second hashmark etc. The reticle manual did not disclose the 308's bullet weight or the muzzle velocity of the bullet they used...which is stupid. I chrono'd 6 types of 308 ammo and put all the data into a ballistic calculator. All 6 of them calculated out so the first hashmark was at least 30 yards further or closer than 305 yards. I know it's just a reference, and everyone's DOPE card will be different. The annoying thing though is the hash marks are "supposed" to be fairly close to the round numbers of 300 yards and 400 yards...that's why they put the hash marks in the reticle where they did. So like if your target ranged at 350 yards, ideally you could make an impact by holding over between the 300 and 400 yard hashmarks. It's meant for speed right? and meant for not having to dial or do math when an animal or a threat needs dispatch quickly.

So, I thought to call up the scope manufacturer and ask them what make and model cartridge they used to collect the minimal data they published in the reticle manual to declare the first hashmark is 305 yards and the second hashmark is 410 yards etc , and ask them why the hell they didn't include at least the bullet weight or muzzle velocity so we have some frame of reference to know maybe we should shoot that stuff to get similar BDC calibration. Some idiot is going to shoot at a deer standing at 300 yards holding over with the first hashmark like the reticle manual implies without knowing that their ammo does completely different shit than what the scope company used. Somewhere there's a deer missing an ear now. I didn't end up calling them on the phone either.

I wasn't going to allow that to happen to me so this is what I did. Knowing from the vague reticle manual that the first BDC hashmark is cryptically 305 yards and 4.6 MOA, I googled this....

"what does the bullet weight and muzzle velocity need to be in order for a 308 Winchester bullet to hit a 305 yard target at 4.6 MOA"

Sure enough, Mr Google said this.......

"165gr to 168gr travelling at 2600 to 2800 FPS"


knowing that, I then googled........

"popular factory 308 Winchester ammo between 165gr and 168gr with a muzzle velocity of 2600fps to 2800fps".


Mr Google quickly wrote back.....

" Federal Premium Gold Medal Sierra Matchking 168gr HPBT MV 2650fps".

Wow! Can that be the cartridge that the scope company used to reference their minimalist BDC reticle guide? I looked up the BC for that cartridge and then punched that into my ballistic calculator along with the 168gr bullet weight and 2650 fps MV, 100 yard zero, and my own sight height (1.75 inches).

Low and behold....305 yards - 4.6 MOA. The rest of the subtensions of the BDC reticle were all a near perfect match to the ballistics of the 168gr MatchKIng. Mystery solved! The only thing left to do now is shoot some of those Matchkings, verify the MV, and pray my rifle likes them. If I'm lucky the BDC hashmarks will be a good reference to 300 and 400 yards as designed, and the deer doesn't lose an ear.
 
Seems more odd to me they didn't just round off 305 yds to 300 yds for the first hashmark
I dont even calculate drop difference of 20 yds until Im past 1000
 
Seems more odd to me they didn't just round off 305 yds to 300 yds for the first hashmark
I dont even calculate drop difference of 20 yds until Im past 1000
Im pretty sure they rounded up or down to 4.6 MOA. They wanted to be as close to 300 yards as they could get in a calculator
 
Or with your first example, lower the power from 6 to 5.4 power(90%) which will increase your subtensions to compensate for the .89 difference in drop at 300 (267). Since you have a sfp scope.
 
I don't have any Vortex products. So I don't know if they have a calculator for their BDC scopes? The Nikon spot on calculator will give you a pretty good idea on how magnification setting will alter the values of a sfp bdc. Lots of ammo/brands to enter in calculator, easy to alter scope settings. Than a numbered grid at 100 yards would give you your scopes subtention by mag setting for more accurate numbers.
 

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