80 Gr Barnes TTSX

[NCVarhtr]

I was hoping some of you could give me some sound advice this bullet. I suspect it performs well on Deer size game. How does it group? What is the trick to getting it to group well ??? Seating depth?? I would really appreciate any real life experience, suggestions, ideas or thoughts. I will use it in a 6X47 Lapua 10 twist at a MV around 3250 to 3300 FPS.. Thanks in advance.....

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

I was hoping some of you could give me some sound advice this bullet. I suspect it performs well on Deer size game. How does it group? What is the trick to getting it to group well ??? Seating depth?? I would really appreciate any real life experience, suggestions, ideas or thoughts. I will use it in a 6X47 Lapua 10 twist at a MV around 3250 to 3300 FPS.. Thanks in advance.....

I've never gotten the Barnes bullets to shoot as well a high quality jacketed lead bullet, but they do respond to charge weight and seating depth. They are my favorite bullet for big game -- decent accuracy, great terminal performance, almost no bloodshot meat, and not toxic to raptors (speaking as a falconer). I've used my 6BR 9 twist with the 85gr TSX to shoot a pile of pronghorns and mule deer. Seating depth test below (3-shot groups, 100 yards), with two groups of 95gr Berger VLD for comparison. Start 0.050" off the lands and work your way in. They won't shoot well if they're anywhere near the lands, IME (and as you can see from the targets).

 

[NCVarhtr]

Toby,
Thanks very much for taking the time to share your experience with the 85 Gr. TXS. I especially appreciate you showing the seating depth test along with the results as groups shrink with changing depth. Thanks again......

 

[normmatzen]

I have never tried TTSX bullets in my 284 WIN BR gun, but I do use them for deer hunting!
I have a sporterized VZ-24 actioned 7X57 hunting rifle with a WWII surplus large ring mauser barrel. I started using 162 gr A-MAX and it would shoot right at 1 MOA to 1.5 MOA. Pretty standard for a good hunting rifle. Then I shot a small black tail and a small pig within 20 min and found a huge exit wound!
Read up on Barnes copper bullets and found they are deadly with good expansion characteristics. Loaded some and loaded them long as the action would allow as this is a sloppy, long leade for 175 gr RN FMJ.
Would not shoot to save my life! Finally found a write up that said these bullets like long jumps. Ended up with the center bearing ring right on the end of the neck with the neck dividing the ring. Now it out-shoots the A-Max at 1 MOA! Now it even out-shoots my grandson's 7X57 Spanish Mauser with new barrel that I built for him!

Don't be shy of trying really long jumps!

 

[FeMan]

I have used Barnes in many calibers for years. Taken over 100 animals with them. I love them. If you have problems getting them to group and have the case capacity, try jumping them 50, 70 90 and 110 thousandths. My 6.5x47 hated the 120 TTSX until I got to 0.130" jump, They shoot under 1/4 MOA there in that rifle. Most of my rifles (243, 270, 7 STW, and 300) shoot them best with what would be HUGE jumps with other bullets.

 

[Brians356]

I've not tried any but a very avid hunter friend swears by them. In his 270 WSM he gets ragged hole groups and devastating terminal performance. And he says they like plenty of jump, .100" is not unreasonable. I'm going to try some in my 270 Win.
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[AckleymanII]

I shoot the 80g tipped triple shock in a rem 700 243, unreal accurate. Work up your load with a .050 jump for a start, find the powder charge that your barrel likes, then adjust from there. I did not have to alter the OAL in my Remington. I also had great luck with the 85 NON tipped triple shock.

 

[RonAKA]

I was hoping some of you could give me some sound advice this bullet. I suspect it performs well on Deer size game. How does it group? What is the trick to getting it to group well ??? Seating depth?? I would really appreciate any real life experience, suggestions, ideas or thoughts. I will use it in a 6X47 Lapua 10 twist at a MV around 3250 to 3300 FPS.. Thanks in advance.....

When I run that bullet through the Berger Twist Rate Calculator it comes out very marginal at 1.12 with an 11% loss in BC. Probably because of the low copper density compared to a lead core, it has to be longer for the size. For hunting with a 10 twist 6mm you may be better with a Nosler 85 Partition. It comes out with a high stability factor of 1.73, and maintains a better BC than the TTSX which is 0.293. The Nosler 95 grain Partition would be better still. It comes out at 1.53 at 3100 fps, and maintains its full BC of 0.365 -- much better than the TTSX. Even the 100 grain would stabilize at 1.44 and maintain a BC of 0.377. With a 10 twist and hunting deer, I would probably go with the 100 grain Nosler Partition...

 

[fredo]

I was hoping some of you could give me some sound advice this bullet. I suspect it performs well on Deer size game. How does it group? What is the trick to getting it to group well ??? Seating depth?? I would really appreciate any real life experience, suggestions, ideas or thoughts. I will use it in a 6X47 Lapua 10 twist at a MV around 3250 to 3300 FPS.. Thanks in advance.....

Loading the 80TTSX .030" off lands in my 6x45AI. Will shoot 3 holes that a quarter can cover @ 100yds, from a 9lb. hunting rifle. Plenty good enough for a 0-300yd deer rifle. Even @ modest 2915fps MV, they've blown clear thru a couple deer, last season.
Not much data with only a couple animals down. But based on how they penetrate, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, especially when pushed from a larger cartridge...
Good luck & have fun!

 

[PAshooter20BR]

80 grain 25 cal TTSX in a 257 weatherby with 130 tho jump. Shoots 1 inch groups at 300 in a 9lb custom rifle. Drops deer in tracks. They can take the impact velocity. 3900 fps and mature doe at 70 yards smashes through. Dead before they hit ground. Worked well in my application, 4 kills with that bullet at 300, 305, 355, and 365 yards this year.
Best of luck

 

[Shoebox]

80 ttsx 2506ai 3800+ best group .4s at 100y anything worse was me,
I've shot dingo,wild dogs, goats, pigs, deer, fox,cats and everything had hit the deck hard, I'm only a short range shooter 300+ is about max
Have never recovered a bullet 70 thou of lands
Steve

 

[Berger.Fan222]

I've never gotten the Barnes bullets to shoot as well a high quality jacketed lead bullet, but they do respond to charge weight and seating depth. They are my favorite bullet for big game -- decent accuracy, great terminal performance, almost no bloodshot meat, and not toxic to raptors (speaking as a falconer).

My experience is similar. Whatever accuracy you are used to for a good jacketed lead bullet in a given rifle, double the group size for a Barnes TTSX. In a good rifle with careful load workup (charge weight and seating depth) focused on accuracy, you should be able to get 1 MOA. It would be rare to get that accuracy at peak muzzle velocity, but you might get lucky trying a couple different powders and varying the seating depth.

On the whole, I only prefer Barnes X bullets for situations where I can't get the needed penetration with the sectional density and bullet weight in a jacketed lead bullet. The extra expense and loading effort just is not worthwhile unless there is a legal requirement for lead free bullets. In a 6mm, there are a lot of great jacketed lead bullets for deer, so I would only bother with the TTSX if hunting something bigger or in a location where jacketed lead bullets are banned.

The TTSX is the best solid copper bullet, and I've tried lots of them.

 

[FeMan]

Interesting. The only rifle I have had issues getting superb accuracy with Barnes has been my 243 Win. 1 MOA for 5-shots was its limit. Not sure why that was because that rifle shot jacketed bullets like a dream. In my 6.5, 270, 7, and 300 I get 1/4 to 1/2 MOA at max velocity. My STW shoots 1/4MOA with the 150 TSX a 3400 fps.

 

[Shoebox]

Savage single shot long action 80 ttsx 2506ai Douglas 26" 1-10t 3x9x56 kahles - 3800fps .4s best group at 100y
Best group at top velocities, 70 thou of lands