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75 gr. Hornady and Varget

MGYSGT

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Looking at load data for this in .223. Serria says 26+ gr. of Varget. Seems kind of high to me. What do you think. To be used in Savage bolt F Class.

Tom
 
Depends on your gun of course, but I wouldn't go over 25gr with the 75 BTHP and usually hold at 24.5. You'll probably want to start at 23 or 23.5.
 
I Run 24.5 gr Varget under a 77gr loaded to magazine length in my AR.

Same powder charge loaded under a 80gr seated to 2.50" overall in the bolt gun.

That AR load is very popular for service rifle. Those guys are also known to occasionally crack bolts with it. It is pretty warm.

The bolt action is sturdier, in my opinion, but I'd still focus on accuracy rather than velocity.

In the bolt action, of you load the bullet into the lands, I'd follow the advice above and work up.
 
MGYSGT said:
Looking at load data for this in .223. Serria says 26+ gr. of Varget. Seems kind of high to me. What do you think. To be used in Savage bolt F Class.

Tom

It is a long bullet, that doesn't sit too far into the case, so you can load it hotter than a 77gr SMK loaded to 2.260" Overall length (as measured from 2 bullets from my boxes) (total length)
AMax 1.01"
77gr SMK 1.01"

The AMax needs to be loaded to 2.390" minimum.
The Sierra can be loaded to 2.260"

The A-Max shoots really well, so go for it. My Moly coated like a 0.005" jump, so do some OCW for load, repeat for seating depth, then repeat @ new seating depth for load again.

-Mac
 
Yup, 26+ is a hot load for a 75gr loaded to 2.260". The A-Max loaded to 2.390" will be ok, but work up to it for sure.
Seating depth and COL is key for the heavy bullets. Work up a good load, then work up a good seating depth to the lands.

-Mac
 
While I don't shoot the 75 A-Max, I use 24.5 grs under Sierras up to 80 grains.

On another board, that has some "hot shot" posters (pun intended), they laugh at my load as too light and anemic. It's encouraging to see a bunch of guys here recommending the exact same load that is apparently only good "for kids". 8)
 
Cold Bore said:
While I don't shoot the 75 A-Max, I use 24.5 grs under Sierras up to 80 grains.

On another board, that has some "hot shot" posters (pun intended), they laugh at my load as too light and anemic. It's encouraging to see a bunch of guys here recommending the exact same load that is apparently only good "for kids". 8)

Good for kids who only like to count one hole, no matter how many bullets passed through it.

-Mac
 
24.0gr Varget and the 75gr HPBT is like peas & carrots in bolt guns...some folks have luck running 24.5gr as mentioned upthread, but I wasn't one of them.

24.0gr has shot well in 2 different bolt guns and 2 different ARs for me.

Much can be said for 24.5gr Varget and the 75gr A-Max.
 
23.5 is IMHO more consistently accurate than 24.5 and the primers stay in the case in rapid strings in the summer.

I use 26.5 with 55 grain loads.
 
BoilerUP said:
24.0gr Varget and the 75gr HPBT is like peas & carrots in bolt guns...some folks have luck running 24.5gr as mentioned upthread, but I wasn't one of them.

24.0gr has shot well in 2 different bolt guns and 2 different ARs for me. < snip >

Do you get those results using the same seating depth in all guns, or do you adjust for each gun?
 
wrangler5 said:
BoilerUP said:
24.0gr Varget and the 75gr HPBT is like peas & carrots in bolt guns...some folks have luck running 24.5gr as mentioned upthread, but I wasn't one of them.

24.0gr has shot well in 2 different bolt guns and 2 different ARs for me. < snip >

Do you get those results using the same seating depth in all guns, or do you adjust for each gun?
.

AR mag length (2.255" OAL) worked well in all, although going to a 0.010" jump (roughly 2.29" COAL) provided best accuracy in the bolt guns.
 
Load for you that works and is safe:

23 Grains of Varget
Lake city brass or Lapua
CCI 450's
75 Grain Hornady HP match
2.260 Col
Works in My AR-15 or Bolt gun 1-9 Twists

5 shots from my AR-15

DSCF1340.jpg
 
I load 25.5 gr of Varget under a 75 gr A-max in Lapua match brass with a CCI BR4. My rifle is just a cheap Tikka 8 twist but always shoots under .4" and right at 2900 fps. Since I don't shoot a bench rifle my opinion probably doesn't matter. ;)
 
A_Gamehog said:
Load for you that works and is safe:

23 Grains of Varget
Lake city brass or Lapua
CCI 450's
75 Grain Hornady HP match
2.260 Col
Works in My AR-15 or Bolt gun 1-9 Twists

5 shots from my AR-15

DSCF1340.jpg


This morning I bought some of these bullets and just now got off the phone with a Hornady tech guy. For my 16" Rock River barrel and 5.56 NATO chamber he listed Varget from 21.7 grains to 24.8 so your load falls just about in the middle. I have some VV N140 on hand so will try that first with this bullet. The burn rates must be very similar because the start and max numbers are within .1 grain.

Very nice group by the way.
 
My 20" barrel likes Vitavhouri N140 near 23.8 but be sure to work up to that from 10% less.

-Mac
 

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