I have an AR-15 in 6X45 with a 16" custom barrel,I use it for shorter range,300yds),and night hunting for yotes,cats,and coons.The optic is an ACOG4x,and I have fired a 5/8" group at 100yds with 65gr VMAX,for larger critters I load 100gr RN,it has one hell of a "Smack Factor".Its accurate,efficiant,and fun to shoot.Ill take this over any crappy 6.8 REM anyday.