Switch barrel and single shot suggestions wanted for a 308 boltface . It would be for short range preferred .Would be for target use only and I have the BR "family" covered . Looking for something inherently accurate and the Lapua 6BR case would be a great parent case but not absolutely needed . Wildcat cartridges LOVED !!!! Short range to me is 500 yds. or less and I don't need RECOIL !!!
6mm & 22 cal. sugestions
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MarkS
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I'm not sure what you mean by " I have the BR family covered". The 6BR case is the round for being inherently accurate. For short range a 6BR 12 tw with a 80 gr. flat base bullet would be the best, I know of. See http://www.6mmbr.com/Schronce600.html I have had 20 BR, 22 BR, 6BR, 6BRBS, 6BRX, 7BR, and 30BR, they all shoot very well.
Mark Schronce
MarkS
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I have heard the 6BR AI is a good round. How about a 6BRX, about the same as Dasher. I have thought about a 6.5mm on a 6BR or BRX case.
Mark Schronce
nakneker
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nakneker
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If you've read the recent list on the 6BRA it would be hard not to be intrigued. It seems the round is breaking records and turning in extremely good results. Lots of threads on the round have been created within the last couple of months. I'm going to be sending an action to Wheeler Accuracy so I can join in. I don't shoot competition but it looks like a great vermin killer.
I had a 22 BRDX, 12 twist made to shoot 63 Cheeks and it is FAST! The neck is longer than a BRX which gives some room to seat bullets long or short. Varget is it'still preferred powder.
Just built a 6mm/.22 Dasher switch barrel on a Borden Rim Rock. Haven't shot the 6mm yet but the .22 is pushing an 80 grain A-Max at 3337 fps with low ES and fantastic accuracy. 28" 8tw HV contour Bartlein tube.
A 22 BRDX can eat a barrel if you shoot it hot and a lot. My Varget load is 34.4 gr. to push the 63 Cheek near 3600 fps as I use it to shoot ghogs and my area always has wind. This case is designed to hold more powder, thus more speed. Barrel is a no freebore, so I can chase the lands for awhile before bore cracks and I buy another barrel.
Gtl -
Howdy !
I spent my first 55yr on the farm in NE Indiana. I prefered a rifle I could use dual role' for either varmint or target work.
And of course, groundhogs were THE varmint I was up against.
I was exposed to a goodly variety of different .224s. This included .22BR, .225Win , factory and custom .22-250s, .222Rem, .223; and .220Swift.
When none seemed to meet my accuracy and performance goals, I designed my own wildcat. I necked-down .35Rem to .224" calibre.
I called the wildcat ". 22-35 ", ( not to be confused w/ the smaller capacity old school " .22-35 " benchrest case.... that featured a 35* shoulder angle ).
.22-35 has case capacity > .22-250, and < .22-250AI. I went w/ and easy-to-form 26* shoulder angle, and still had a .250" neck lg on a 1.920" case oal.
My first iterration of the .22-35 was a 24" 1-14 SS Hart 5-groove. My go-to accuracy/varmint load was a less-than-maximum 41.2gr WW760 and FED LR Magnum Match, under
Hornady's superb 55 SX SP. Velocity was loafing along @ 3,690fps, w/ plenty of room to grow, while this load still performed remarably well on " Soybeanus Digestus ".
Despite my using an un-coated steel cleaning rod along w/ a high-combed stock for the first couple of years, and also doing a late in life cryo on the barrel ( a big mistake );
I still managed to accumulate 3,400+ shots on the barrel before it ever keyholed its first shot. Had I treated that barrel better, I'm convinced I could have eclipsed the 3,500 rnd mark handily.
.22-35 exceeded all of my accuracy and terminal performance goals. I had initially consided a .30-378.... shooting 110gr bullets !!!
I shot the 24" 1-14 SS Hart barrel when I made a 510yd groundhog kill, using a protoype of Hornady's 55"V"-Max, over a load of 41.6gr VV160; and FED LR Magnum Match.
I later rechambered ( in .22-35 again ) to a 28" K & P SS 1-8 5-groove.
I shot Hornady 75 "A"-Max exclusively in that barrel, over a accuracy/field load of 40.5gr AA3100 and FED LR Match.
In that guise, .22-35 was a viable 1,000yd capable varmint/target cartridge. The above load gave 3,420 fps w/ the regular match primer, and 3,500fps if the Magnum Match primer was used.
Again... not full-tilt loads by any means, but.... still accurate & deadly.
I wrote P.O. Ackley about my .22-35 and he was nice enough to reply back, saying that " .35 Remington should make a good case, when necked down to take the smaller bullet. "
That for me, was a good passing grade; on my first wildcat design !
I know I might be considered somewhat biased, but .... .22-35 performed better over-all for me, than any of the .224's mentioned above; and that included those chambered as custom rifles.
With regards,
357 Mag
Howdy !
I spent my first 55yr on the farm in NE Indiana. I prefered a rifle I could use dual role' for either varmint or target work.
And of course, groundhogs were THE varmint I was up against.
I was exposed to a goodly variety of different .224s. This included .22BR, .225Win , factory and custom .22-250s, .222Rem, .223; and .220Swift.
When none seemed to meet my accuracy and performance goals, I designed my own wildcat. I necked-down .35Rem to .224" calibre.
I called the wildcat ". 22-35 ", ( not to be confused w/ the smaller capacity old school " .22-35 " benchrest case.... that featured a 35* shoulder angle ).
.22-35 has case capacity > .22-250, and < .22-250AI. I went w/ and easy-to-form 26* shoulder angle, and still had a .250" neck lg on a 1.920" case oal.
My first iterration of the .22-35 was a 24" 1-14 SS Hart 5-groove. My go-to accuracy/varmint load was a less-than-maximum 41.2gr WW760 and FED LR Magnum Match, under
Hornady's superb 55 SX SP. Velocity was loafing along @ 3,690fps, w/ plenty of room to grow, while this load still performed remarably well on " Soybeanus Digestus ".
Despite my using an un-coated steel cleaning rod along w/ a high-combed stock for the first couple of years, and also doing a late in life cryo on the barrel ( a big mistake );
I still managed to accumulate 3,400+ shots on the barrel before it ever keyholed its first shot. Had I treated that barrel better, I'm convinced I could have eclipsed the 3,500 rnd mark handily.
.22-35 exceeded all of my accuracy and terminal performance goals. I had initially consided a .30-378.... shooting 110gr bullets !!!
I shot the 24" 1-14 SS Hart barrel when I made a 510yd groundhog kill, using a protoype of Hornady's 55"V"-Max, over a load of 41.6gr VV160; and FED LR Magnum Match.
I later rechambered ( in .22-35 again ) to a 28" K & P SS 1-8 5-groove.
I shot Hornady 75 "A"-Max exclusively in that barrel, over a accuracy/field load of 40.5gr AA3100 and FED LR Match.
In that guise, .22-35 was a viable 1,000yd capable varmint/target cartridge. The above load gave 3,420 fps w/ the regular match primer, and 3,500fps if the Magnum Match primer was used.
Again... not full-tilt loads by any means, but.... still accurate & deadly.
I wrote P.O. Ackley about my .22-35 and he was nice enough to reply back, saying that " .35 Remington should make a good case, when necked down to take the smaller bullet. "
That for me, was a good passing grade; on my first wildcat design !
I know I might be considered somewhat biased, but .... .22-35 performed better over-all for me, than any of the .224's mentioned above; and that included those chambered as custom rifles.
With regards,
357 Mag
Brians356
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The 35 Remington body is like a 250 Savage but slimmer at the base and with less taper. Its .460 rim (.457 head) is almost exactly midway between the 6mm PPC's .445 and 6mm BR's (et al) .473. So I'm surprised there hasn't been considerable accuracy wildcat development based on the 35 Rem.
Tell us about your boltface.
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Not sure, but loads are close to a 22-250. I would guess 2000 or more.
x47 Lapua
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