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6mm/204

There are quite a few guys on this website that love the precision the 6mm BR brings to the table but wish their rifle was a repeater. While the BR cases can be made to feed in various ways, it seems to me there is a far easier way to skin this cat. Up until a short time ago, a cartridge such as the 6mm/204 would be a bit limited by the length of the magazine box. Now, we have the option of fitting the Accuracy Internation 223 magazine to various rifles. This little jewel of a magazine brings quite a few options to the table, the least of which is the ability to seat your bullets quite a bit further out than the typical Remington 700 box stock magazine. For example, I recently discovered the 80 Federal Gold Medal Match ammunition was extremely accurate out of my 1/8 223 AI. These cartridges are way too long for the AR15 mags but easily fit in the Accuracy International mags. In fact, I have 2 of the 223 AI mags modified to feed 22 BR. I slipped a 22-250 case into one loaded with a 40 grain NBT and it fit with room to spare.

Of course, there are scads of guys out there with 5 gallon buckets of 223 brass that don't want to buy new 204 brass as well as the AR15 guys who are limited by the AR style magazine that the 6mm/204 option would not appeal to. But for the rest of us, who are primarily hunters, shooters and accuracy fiends the bolt action rifle rules.

Then there is the issue of the custom dies. Some guys will want to swap bushings around in 204 dies, but the dies for the 6mm/204 already exist. They are available from Reeder Custom Guns at about 85 bucks I think. Reeder chambers a 6mm/204 he calls the 240 Raptor. I would suspect his reamer might cut a far deeper throat than what a bolt action guy would want because Reeder chambers his Raptor variant for the T/C series.

I do not believe the 6mm/204 would quite have the power the 6BR has but I dont think it would be unreasonable to expect 70's at 3200, 80/85s at 3000, and 100 grainers at 2750 or so. I am clearly guessing here, but maybe somebody with a quick load program could help me out with the numbers and let me know how close a 6mm/204 would come to matching the 6BR in power.

Last, I own 2 rifles in 22 BR and 3 rifles in 223 AI. Clearly the BR cartridge has the advantage in accuracy however it is very slight. I believe the 6mm/204 would bring more than adequate accuracy to the table.

Lets explore this a bit. Maybe spec out a reamer. Decide which barrel twist would be optimal. This might be some serious fun with a 6mm.....
 
FYI, Hodgdons 2012 annual reloading manual,has an article written by Lane Pearce on this wildcat. He has load data for pistol & rifle listed in the article as well as specs & drawing of reamer. Redding dies were used to build loads.
 
a1712 said:
What advantages does this have over the 6mmx47 Rem.? Brian.

I would say that there would be a bit more case capacity by using the 204 as the parent case rather than using the 222 magnum as the parent case when necked to 6mm. Dies as noted above should be easier to get. 204 brass is also more plentiful than 222 mag brass anymore.
 
I HAD A 6X47 A.IMP. FOR YRS. UNTIL IT WAS STOLEN OUT OF MY TRUCK.FREEKIN QUIT SMOKIN THAT DAY..WONDERFUL LITTLE CARTRIDGE.I MIGHT DO A 6X204 . SOUNDS GOOD.
 
I believe I would opt for a 6TCU which has a case capacity very close to a 6PPC and whose parent 223 case allows one to use quality and durable Lapua brass.
 
Rockjag4, what kind of performance were you getting from your 6/222 mag? ( I call it that to cut down on the confusion with the Lapua cartridge.)
 
I generally post this about once a month or so......


Some cases for comparison.....

221 Fireball --- 222 Rem --- 223 REM --- 223 Ackley --- 222 Rem mag --- 22-204

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The 22-204 has about one more grain capacity than a 223 Ackley and almost two more than a 222 RM, and no fireforming required.

I think a 6-204 would make a great round as well.
 
There is certainly no good reason to not choose the 6/250. Nor the original 6X, or the 6XC, or even the 6-6-5x47. As a matter of fact, I own 2 rifles chambered for the original 6X (basically a 6/250 improved), a 22" and a 27" that will do nearly everything a 243 will do with a bit less powder.

But the question is, how close will the 6mm/204 get to the 6BR in terms of performance and accuracy and yet still function from a magazine with reliability?
 
FYI, A link to some info. from benchrest.com on the 6mm-204Ruger. May want to note stevec posts in particular.
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?65397-6mm-204-Ruger
The 6mm-204 is not a new idea. Can't find it in my files at the moment, but I have a 6mm-204 reamer print from the mid to late 90's that PTG did for Ruger.
 
JohnHenry said:
FYI, A link to some info. from benchrest.com on the 6mm-204Ruger. May want to note stevec posts in particular.
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?65397-6mm-204-Ruger
The 6mm-204 is not a new idea. Can't find it in my files at the moment, but I have a 6mm-204 reamer print from the mid to late 90's that PTG did for Ruger.
Found the 6mm-204 reamer print. I was wrong on the date. It is dated 1/16/2004 and was done for Tim Butler(Ruger). The PTG print number is 4082. .273 nk dia, .040 freebore, 1*30 throat angle
 
weren't these gary reeders creations? 240 raptor(204-243),257raptor(204-257), and 6.5raptor(204-264)
all take a deer cartrige out to 200yds
 
JohnHenry said:
FYI, A link to some info. from benchrest.com on the 6mm-204Ruger. May want to note stevec posts in particular.
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?65397-6mm-204-Ruger
The 6mm-204 is not a new idea. Can't find it in my files at the moment, but I have a 6mm-204 reamer print from the mid to late 90's that PTG did for Ruger.

JohnHenry, thanks for the link. So now we know that the 6mm/204 will be closer to the 6mm PPC than the 6mm BR in performance. Good stuff.
 
tdoyka said:
weren't these gary reeders creations? 240 raptor(204-243),257raptor(204-257), and 6.5raptor(204-264)
all take a deer cartrige out to 200yds

Gary's versions are for the T/C guns. What we are discussing here is something for a bolt gun with a bit shorter throat.
 
I did however speak to Gary about this. He had said he felt his Raptors were too long for the internal box magazine in the various bolt rifles. I explained to him the AI 223 magazines might work for his Raptors. But I suspect since he is setting them up for T/C guns the Raptors are throated pretty long...
 

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