6BR Small base reloading die. Is there such a critter??

[skeetlee]

I was wondering if anyone makes a small base die for 6mmBR cases? I have some once and twice fired .262BR brass that isnt working in my newly chambered .262 BR. My new chamber is really tight and this brass has been fired in a chamber that isnt quite as tight as mine. I am FL sizing them but i still get one out of three to four cases stuck in my chamber. My smith took a look at the brass and measured it and there is something like 2 thou difference. I can use this brass as it is and just knock out the ones that get stuck but i dont want to have to do this. After i fire them in my gun they are better but they still will need at least one more firing before i can hunt with them. This is great brass i have and i would like to be able to use it, its just my new chamber is really tight, which isnt a bad thing, it just wont work with the used brass i have. If someone is needing some good .262 6BR brass i can send you a couple pieces to try before i make you a heck of a deal. I was hoping i could find a small base die, but it doesnt look like there is such a thing. Does anyone here no for sure? Thanks Lee

 

[jerrschmitt]

A small base die fro a .243 should work as should a .308 small base die. All of those should be .4709 above the web.

 

[MATSUBOB]

Bob Green in York PA makes an excellent small base 6BR die that also uses sizing bushings.

 

[skeetlee]

My smith,Jon Beanland) suggested that if i didnt find a small base die that i have bob green make me a custom FS die. I dont know if that will re-shape the brass i have or not though. I have Bob's number and i may call him tomorrow. This rifle i have is going to be used as a hunting rifle. I hate to get to much rapped up in it really. I would like to use the brass i have as well so i really dont know what to do. I have a fella that will turn me some new brass all i have to do is supply him with the brass and pay the shipping. Super nice of this fella to offer this to me. I have 3 new boxes of BR brass so i am going to have this done. I guess i will just sell the brass i have as it is good brass excellent in fact. I dont remember who Jon said made the reamer but it is just really really tight in the back end. 2 thou tighter than Dave kiffs reamer. My smith didnt have the .262 BR reamer so we rented it from a good friend of his. We thought we had some problems at first because the brass was getting stuck after firing it in the rifle. The bolt would also double click when ejecting. It really through us for a spell. Jon called the company that made the reamer today and this is how we found out that its just a really tight reamer. I hope it works out ok for hunting. It should!! I also have about 300 pieces of remington 7BR brass that has been turned to .262 that works just fine in my rifle. As you know the remington brass is a bit smaller than the Lapua. I will use the remington brass for hunting as it was giving me some super accurate groups last weekend at the range. This little delima we had was actually a good learning ordeal for me. I sure do enjoy this sport and you folks!!! I know this isnt the for sale section but if anyone would like to try this Lapua brass i have out just send me a Pm and i will send you some to try. Like i said it darn near new and it will most likley work out great for ya.
I painted my stock today at work as there wasnt much going on. It turned out really good. I will post a pic here in a minute. I am just about ready to do some coyote hunting if the rain would ever stop and the boys could get the corn out of the fields. Have a nice evening!! Lee

 

[forsyth793]

Try a 30/06 size die to squeeze the body, remove the decapping pin assembly, use plenty of lube.

 

[skeetlee]

Well it looks like i learned another new trick. I took the Lapua brass and sized it in my Hornady 243FLS die. I then ran it through the redding bushing BR die bumping the shoulder back properly and all is fine. I will have to load and shoot a few but it looks like i will be able to use my brass. I will keep you posted on what i find out! Lee

 

[Eddie Harren]

Or, send a couple of cases, that have been fired several times, in your chamber, and send them to Harrell's Precision. They will make you a die.

 

[NorCalMikie]

Sounds like you need to run your brass through a 'body' die. The Bushing dies will do the neck and bump the shoulder but won't size the body down. After 5 to 10 firings, run them through a body only die and you're back in business. Works great on my 22 and 6 BR brass. They start getting snug in the chamber, a pass through the body die and you're ready to go again.

 

[skeetlee]

Norcalmike
My bushing die is a fls bushing die. Does what you say still apply? I had a nice gentleman offer me a small base body die for a fair price. I think i will take him up on it. The 243die is working however. Is there any reason why i shouldn't use it? Thanks fellas!! Lee

 

[LWolken]

alf,

Why in the world would you waller out a tight chamber? Not only would this tend to over work the brass but then you will have to fire form every new case to get it to fit the sloppy chamber. Get a small base die and yes Redding makes them.

Lance

 

[skeetlee]

Like i said above the reamer was a rented reamer from a friend of my smiths. He didnt have the blue print of the reamer. I dont remember who my smith said made the reamer but my smith called the folks that made it. The reamer is for Lapua brass it is just a tight bore reamer. The smith who owns the reamer has chambered quite a few barrels with it without any issues what so ever. I would not have had any either, had i started with fresh .Rifle is shooting better than i thought it would and all will be fine. Just another lesson among many associated with this great sport. Thanks Lee

 

[NorCalMikie]

Lee: I'am guessing that the full length sizer die would work the body. My Forster Precision Bushing Bump die won't work the body that much so the 'body' takes care of thet. But it's not needed 'every time'. The full length .243 die might be too long to get the right feel but as long as it works, use it. I'de rather work with a 'shorter' body die for the BR case. But that's just me. And they're not that expensive. Maybe $25.00 or $30.00. Been a while. Got mine at Midsouth along with the Forster Bushing die. No need for a 'custom' made die.
And I wouldn't touch the chamber. Work the brass! JMHO.

 

[LHSmith]

alf,

Why in the world would you waller out a tight chamber? Not only would this tend to over work the brass but then you will have to fire form every new case to get it to fit the sloppy chamber. Get a small base die and yes Redding makes them.

Lance

Well-- simply because a small base die can only size down the case body so far, there is a small portion of the case head,perhaps .060 above the extraction groove) which cannot be swagged down in diameter because this is where the solid brass web is ...and nothing short of a massive hydaulic press can accomplish this.
It all depends how 'tight' the chamber is.
For me, I'm through with tight chambers as they have always been problematic for me,and I don't see any difference in accuracy as a result.
As far as having to 'fireform' new brass, it will be very minimal and when fireforming PPC and BR cases the accuracy during this proceedure rivals that of my subsequent match loads.....and that pesky bolt click is gone if I FLS everytime.

 

[StevenDzupin]

I just used the .30-06 die to resize 15 pieces of 6mm Lapua brass that were a tad too big in the rear end.LOL

Could not bear to scrap them !

This method worked well but resulted in moving the case shoulder
forward by .008' above maximum on my Wilson gage.

As mentioned the shoulder needs to be bumped back.

Something else to buy. LOL

Regards,

Steve

 

[jb1000br]

In case the original question has not been answered, REDDING makes a small base die for the 6BR.

JB