6.5x300 weatherby

[cnca]

Just picked up new rifle, thoughts if I should float bbl. or leave the tip pressure, all my other many rifles I floated. I will be reloading for it. Thoughts Please.

 

[JLT]

Floating the barrel may or may not improve your accuracy. I have never seen floating degrade accuracy, however. Floating the barrel WILL improve your rifle's ability to maintain consistent POI from a cold barrel.

I say float the barrel. Some very light contours (#1 contour, for example) tend to shoot OK with some tip pressure, but a #1 contour on a 6.5-.300 Wby., well, it just might melt . . .

What kind of rifle did you get?

 

[4xforfun]

Just picked up new rifle, thoughts if I should float bbl. or leave the tip pressure, all my other many rifles I floated. I will be reloading for it. Thoughts Please.

Did you build or buy?

 

[cnca]

JLT it is a vanguard wilderness, 4Xforfun its a factory but I'm sure I will use it for one deer season then rebarrel it. I've done a rebarrel 2 time after factory barrel on my 300 rum, and built a 28 nosler last season 2017. JLT that's what I was thinking, all my rifles a floated.

 

[Zero333]

Shoot 4 five-shot groups back to back with out any cool off period with the rifle the way it came from factory.

If the point of impact doesn't move then floating the barrel will not make much difference. But if you have fliers, especially if the first 1 or 2 shots are not grouping with the remaining, then float it.

 

[hoz53]

Shoot 4 five-shot groups back to back with out any cool off period with the rifle the way it came from factory.

If the point of impact doesn't move then floating the barrel will not make much difference. But if you have fliers, especially if the first 1 or 2 shots are not grouping with the remaining, then float it.

so after doing that with that cartridge he would be ready for a new barrel right?

 

[4xforfun]

Shoot 4 five-shot groups back to back with out any cool off period with the rifle the way it came from factory.

If the point of impact doesn't move then floating the barrel will not make much difference. But if you have fliers, especially if the first 1 or 2 shots are not grouping with the remaining, then float it.

I have to disagree. Heat induced stress and the related impact shift have nothing to do with the BBL being floated. If there is heat induced stress it will happen weather of not the bbl is floated. In fact...it may be worse if the tube is fully floated. As the tube heats up it bends...moving the POI. With a non floated tube, the stock may actually restrict the movement in some situations.

Now, ambient temps which change the shape of the stock is a whole different matter. If the BBL is NOT floated and the stock changes shape inducing POA shift, then you need to float the BBL. This is where fiberglass and laminated stocks shine...they reduce the amout the weather has on you stock shape.

Also, a non floated BBL can amplify any gun handling issues you may have.

Tod

 

[hoz53]

Just picked up new rifle, thoughts if I should float bbl. or leave the tip pressure, all my other many rifles I floated. I will be reloading for it. Thoughts Please.

enough of this floating barrel stuff. have you shot this thing yet. what fps are you getting with a 100 gr bullet?

 

[4xforfun]

enough of this floating barrel stuff. have you shot this thing yet. what fps are you getting with a 100 gr bullet?

...and the new 150 Sierra!?!?

 

[hoz53]

...and the new 150 Sierra!?!?

yeah that to

 

[4xforfun]

I want to chamber one up so bad.....but, at over $3.00 per shot I am having trouble pulling the trigger!!

Pun intended,
Tod

 

[cnca]

Yea don't think I will be shooting 20 rounds with no cool down. I'm waiting on the rings to get here. I'm going to start with the hornady 143 eld x. The 200gr shot good in my 300 rum and the 175's and 162's shot good in my 28 nosler.

 

[hoz53]

I want to chamber one up so bad.....but, at over $3.00 per shot I am having trouble pulling the trigger!!

Pun intended,
Tod

is part of that 3.00 per shot cost of a new barrel? $300/500rounds = 60 cents per shot har har

 

[hoz53]

Yea don't think I will be shooting 20 rounds with no cool down. I'm waiting on the rings to get here. I'm going to start with the hornady 143 eld x. The 200gr shot good in my 300 rum and the 175's and 162's shot good in my 28 nosler.

please report here- it outta be a screamer

 

[XTR]

...... but ...a 6.5-.300 Wby., well, it just might melt . . .

You will have to shoot groups the way I do with my smokeless Muzzle Loader, with about 30 minutes between shots. Otherwise it softens the sabots and you don't learn anything.

I once saw a guy bring his girlfriend/wife to an F class match with a factory 243 with a sporter barrel in a plastic stock. By the time she got to about 20 shots it was randomly placing holes all over the 72" by 72" target backer from 600 yards.

 

[4xforfun]

is part of that 3.00 per shot cost of a new barrel? $300/500rounds = 60 cents per shot har har

34 inch Kreiger....$450 .00 delivered.
Fit and chamber a BBL and break......$300.00
Series III Redding die set......$250.00
50 pieces brass.........$100.00

$1,100.00 / 500 shots = $2.20 shot.

Bullet.....$0.40 each
Powder.......$0.40 each
Primers......$0.04 each

That is $0.84 per shot.

That, my friends, is $3.04 per shot!!

Sometimes I HATE math!!

Tod

 

[TZaun]

It's no fun to be realistic, is it?

 

[hoz53]

34 inch Kreiger....$450 .00 delivered.
Fit and chamber a BBL and break......$300.00
Series III Redding die set......$250.00
50 pieces brass.........$100.00

$1,100.00 / 500 shots = $2.20 shot.

Bullet.....$0.40 each
Powder.......$0.40 each
Primers......$0.04 each

That is $0.84 per shot.

That, my friends, is $3.04 per shot!!

Sometimes I HATE math!!

Tod

yeah i should have added the chambering fee in for the barrel cost. its interesting how we compartmentalize costs of things so we can tell ourselves things are cheaper than they are. like a guy with a lathe says it costs him 350.00 for a new barrel on his rifle when it actually costs him alot more to fit it than just paying somebody to fit it. Your guestimate is close and good to realize. i just never could get myself to buy a high dollar set of those redding comp dies. like they actually cost anything in the larger scheme of of it all

 

[4xforfun]

yeah i should have added the chambering fee in for the barrel cost. its interesting how we compartmentalize costs of things so we can tell ourselves things are cheaper than they are. like a guy with a lathe says it costs him 350.00 for a new barrel on his rifle when it actually costs him alot more to fit it than just paying somebody to fit it. Your guestimate is close and good to realize. i just never could get myself to buy a high dollar set of those redding comp dies. like they actually cost anything in the larger scheme of of it all

Actually..the dies are the ONLY part of this deal that is a "good deal" ....they are re-usable for as many times as I decide to re-BBL, and can get most of my money back when I am done with that chambering. EVERYTHING else is throw - away!!

Tod

 

[hoz53]

Actually..the dies are the ONLY part of this deal that is a "good deal" ....they are re-usable for as many times as I decide to re-BBL, and can get most of my money back when I am done with that chambering. EVERYTHING else is throw - away!!

Tod

yep i agree.