6.5 creed and 144 Bergers

[wboggs]

Would like to hear from some shooters using this combo. Pros and cons
Thanks

 

[6.5 forever]

These Hybrids shot good. But no better than 142 SMK. A good shooter may see a difference, but I couldn't on target. Although they did seat smoother.

 

[wboggs]

These Hybrids shot good. But no better than 142 SMK. A good shooter may see a difference, but I couldn't on target. Although they did seat smoother.

What type accuracy you getting with both the Sierra and Bergers? Any velocity difference?

 

[6.5 forever]

.5 MOA at 100
.8 MOA at 1000
Velocity was almost identical. I switched to Sierra.

 

[wboggs]

.5 MOA at 100
.8 MOA at 1000
Velocity was almost identical. I switched to Sierra.

Thanks

 

[Bill Norris]

Would like to hear from some shooters using this combo. Pros and cons
Thanks

Worked up a load for a shooting buddy of mine awhile back and it feel together like white on rice.

LAPUA VIRGIN BRASS
144 GR. BERGER L R HYB T 2.192 O M 2.935 COL T/L B S .483 B C .655
POWDER H-4350 41.8 GR. PRIMER CCI BR-4
SEATED @ 2.182 O M 2.925 COL .010 OTL

 

[J.D.Erwin]

Would like to hear from some shooters using this combo. Pros and cons
Thanks

I normally load H 4350 42.3 gr, but today I loaded,
lapua brass , berger hyb 144 gr , H 4831 SC 43.4 gr and Fed 210m
seated @ 2.194 I will report back after my next range session

 

[wboggs]

I normally load H 4350 42.3 gr, but today I loaded,
lapua brass , berger hyb 144 gr , H 4831 SC 43.4 gr and Fed 210m
seated @ 2.194 I will report back after my next range session

Why did you go go to 4831 sc?

 

[J.D.Erwin]

Why did you go go to 4831 sc?

wboggs
my go to loads for the 6.5 CreedM are H 4350, 44 gr with berger 130 gr and
VV 555 , 43.6 gr with berger vld both loads are very accurate.
I chose the 4831 SC due to some old load data it falls in between the VV 555 and 560 which are two of the powder I use with 120 gr to 156 gr bullets.

 

[wboggs]

wboggs
my go to loads for the 6.5 CreedM are H 4350, 44 gr with berger 130 gr and
VV 555 , 43.6 gr with berger vld both loads are very accurate.
I chose the 4831 SC due to some old load data it falls in between the VV 555 and 560 which are two of the powder I use with 120 gr to 156 gr bullets.

Can you see changing from h4350 to the VV series? If so, which for 140-144 bullets?

 

[STOMP442]

I use them in my latest .260 Ackley. 28" Krieger 8 twist loves them. I tried the Berger 140s, Sierra 142s and the Hornady 140 and the 144s shot better than all of them in my particular rifle.

 

[J.D.Erwin]

Can you see changing from h4350 to the VV series? If so, which for 140-144 bullets?

wboggs
In the 139-144 gr berger bullets I,m loading VV N150 and N160 in the 95-115 gr I'm using N140 hope this helps

 

[Steve Donlon]

I've been shooting them for some time now using 41.5 grs of RL16 in Peterson brass. They shoot to the same point of aim as 42.3 grs. of RL 16 with 147 gr. ELD bullets using Hornady brass. These are maximum loads for my rifle. They shoot great at 1000 yards at least the same size of groups you are getting now, I would assume. They like some jump so don't worry about trying to get them 15 or 20 off.

 

[wboggs]

I've been shooting them for some time now using 41.5 grs of RL16 in Peterson brass. They shoot to the same point of aim as 42.3 grs. of RL 16 with 147 gr. ELD bullets using Hornady brass. These are maximum loads for my rifle. They shoot great at 1000 yards at least the same size of groups you are getting now, I would assume. They like some jump so don't worry about trying to get them 15 or 20 off.

R16 is difficult for me to find, what is your best second choce?

 

[Steve Donlon]

R16 is difficult for me to find, what is your best second choce?

The only other powder I like that they still make is IMR 4350.

 

[wboggs]

The only other powder I like that they still make is IMR 4350.

That is a surprise. I have used H4350 but not IMR. It is easy to get but I wonder why you favor it?
Thanks
Bill

 

[Steve Donlon]

That is a surprise. I have used H4350 but not IMR. It is easy to get but I wonder why you favor it?
Thanks
Bill

I have always used it for the 30-06 and have plenty of it. So when I started shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor and it was also a good powder for it I tried it and was able to shoot one hole groups at 100 yards so I see no reason to switch. Plus like you said " it's easy to get". Then the guys I shoot with showed what advantages RL16 powder has at 1000 yards so I started using the RL16 for longer ranges for the extra velocity it offers over IMR 4350. But 4350 is still more accurate if the wind is not relevant. MY 6.5 Creedmoor has a 27" 3 groove Pac-Nor long shank heavy varmint barrel in a XLR Pro Envy chassis. I don't know if that matters but it works.

 

[wboggs]

I have always used it for the 30-06 and have plenty of it. So when I started shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor and it was also a good powder for it I tried it and was able to shoot one hole groups at 100 yards so I see no reason to switch. Plus like you said " it's easy to get". Then the guys I shoot with showed what advantages RL16 powder has at 1000 yards so I started using the RL16 for longer ranges for the extra velocity it offers over IMR 4350. But 4350 is still more accurate if the wind is not relevant. MY 6.5 Creedmoor has a 27" 3 groove Pac-Nor long shank heavy varmint barrel in a XLR Pro Envy chassis. I don't know if that matters but it works.

Thanks for your insights.
For me, RL powders are out of the picture. I still have 1 can of 16, 2cans of 26, 6 of 22, and about 7#s of 17. Don't forsee any use unless it is an emergency supply issue.
Bill