45ACP bullet seat plug for semi-wad cutter or hollowpoint Raniers?

[Oldschool1]

I'm new to loading 45ACP, am using the Redding 3 die set. It only comes with a round nose bullet seating post. What is avaialable - or any experience with what works good with semi-wadcutter or specifically Rannier 230 grain HP?

Clearly the roundnose deforms the ogive so going to need either a flat or a some parabolic shape to capture the bullet below the hollowpoint where it deforms easily.

Thx for the insight!

Paul

 

[zanemoseley]

I load a ton of 45 lead SWC for bullseye, I use both Dillon and Redding micrometer seating dies. I don't recall the shape of the stem on the redding die bit its probably the same as yours, I haven't had any issues with it. The Dillon seating dies usually have a reversible seating stem for different profiles. If you're flaring the case properly I don't feel like it takes enough force to seat the bullets to damage them. I shoot mid to upper level Expert scores in 2700 Bullseye, perhaps if you get to high master you could tell a small difference.

 

[DirtySteve]

I have loaded some 185 SWC and 155's with what ever seating stem RCBS ships the dies with and have had no issues. Those 155's cut some of the cleanest holes you will ever see. But a lot of guns don't shoot them well, and I had to cast them myself.

 

[Archer]

Years ago, I sent 3 bullets to RCBS to have a new seating plug ground to match a particular bullet I was loading. Maybe Redding will do the same for you?

 

[kneedtospeed]

Dillon Die. Easy, Quick change seater.

Bullet Seating Die
Our new quick-disassembly seat die allows the user to disassemble and clean the seat die without losing adjustment. In this manner, bullet lube and shavings can be quickly removed from the die, thereby guaranteeing a constant seating depth. We've incorporated a "flip-flop" seating stem and a clip that enables you to remove the die insert and change the seating stem from round nose to semi-wadcutter without unscrewing a seating stem out of the die body. We've always included both types of seating stems, but the new double-ended design makes it a simple matter to remove a pin, reverse the seating stem, make any minor seating depth adjustments that may be necessary and go on loading in a fraction of the time it used to take.

 

[Oldschool1]

Thx - some options

Does Redding make a flat nosed seater for basic 3 die set? I'm surprised it didn't come like that.

Maybe I'll have to make one?

 

[zanemoseley]

If you seat a flat nose bullet with a round nose seater it has contact around the perimeter of the round nose profile. Have you measured a problem with this setup. Not being a jerk but you may be inventing a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[Oldschool1]

That's a fair question

I first tried to use the round nose - but found this result. And it seems this deformation is going to vary based on tolerance - seating force and a deformed bullet i can only think would effect accuracy.

I'm much more in the camp of not having a deformed bullet to eliminate any variables to feeding/accuracy.

Appreciate the consideration though.

 

[ppaul]

Old school, one solution to your problem. Get a bullet seated that is not deformed,over expand a case it may help then, take some JB Weld and fill the hollow point and strike it off so it is flat. after it's cured mix a little more and put a small amount in the cavity of the seating stem. Oil up the die, the epoxied round and gently rasie the ram so the bullet is set into the seater, Leave it till it's cured. Now you have a custom seating stem. It works!

 

[Oldschool1]

Paul,

I like the way you think - THAT same strategy was being contemplated - I've done similar in the past but not in this field. The hesitance is the round nose bullets I will need to load in the next 3 weeks - so ideally I need 2 seeter plugs.

But If Redding doesn't make a flat, then I'll likely go this route.

Thx for bringing this up.

OSchool

 

[Ringostar]

I've loaded thousands of the cast and plated bullets. I've never had them deform while seating. You started another thread saying that your expander was to tight in your sized cases. They both sound like your sizing die is to tight, and causing both of your problems.

 

[nicholst55]

I've experienced this problem a few times, and I simply do what ppaul suggested. If necessary, you can order a couple of extra seating stems from Redding to modify.

 

[Oldschool1]

Ok so - made a custom epoxy mold in the existing "round nose" seating plug, essentially it just puts a flat in teh bottome of the round. It seams to not deform the nose now, when seeting to 1.220" depth. I can sure feel the force increase with the seating depth increase.

I think this will work.

WRT additional Redding seating plugs, i've looked hi and low for those - AWOL.

Any sources for those, or a phone number for Redding which I can't find either.

thx,

Paul

 

[riflewoman]

Try (607) 753-3331. It’s for their RMA authorization page but it might get you where you want to be.

 

[Gabe22BR]

don't know which route you took, but Dillion as mention is the die to have.

 

[riflewoman]

don't know which route you took, but Dillion as mention is the die to have.

I’m not so sure. Dillon have their issues too. I think I’ll stick with my RCBS and Redding.

 

[snert]

607-753-3331, ask for tech, explain the issue and I bet they send you a plug. Shoulda started there, honestly. They have a great team and a good policy regarding helping you out.

 

[Oldschool1]

607-753-3331, ask for tech, explain the issue and I bet they send you a plug. Shoulda started there, honestly. They have a great team and a good policy regarding helping you out.

Thx for the number will call them tomorrow.

 

[dickn52]

Redding part number 09476 is .45 ACP Flat stem. #16 is the .45 standard. BUT this is for the micrometer seater ONLY I believe.

 

[cdhbrad]

I use the Redding Competition Micrometer Seating Dies for all Pistol calibers I reload and it works with every bullet shape I have used in every caliber. That's where I would go to address this seating issue.