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458 American Max Bullet Length for 2.465” COAL

I'm looking to build a 458 American on a M70 Classic WSSM Action and I think the longest I'll be able to go with COAL is 2.46". This is going to be an Eastern Woods Thumper so I am not super concerned with loading exceptionally heavy bullets. I would build a clone of this on a WSM action instead if I wanted to really juice this cartridge and load out super far. I am looking at modifying the mag box and bolt stop and may be able to snag another .2" but before I do that, I am looking at what length these longer bullets are being loaded to. The drawing on Wikipedia shows 2.44” but that could be loading bullets exceptionally deep or the max length with the shortest, lightest bullet on the market.

The bullet length for the 300 gr Barnes TTSX is 1.235” while the bullet length for the 300 gr Barnes Original FN is 0.792” and for the 300 gr Barnes Original Semi-Spitzer is 0.941” so there is quite a length range within the same weight and there are even some 400 gr options that are shorter than the TTSX. I know bullet length also doesn’t tell the whole story due to differences in Ogive and Tip Shape which would affect how much sticks out above the top of the brass so long story short, what bullet are you using, how long do you load it out to, and how short could you go before getting into the ogive?
 
No, wish I had something that would be capable of using that big ole’ behemoth though! Most people don’t even know that a 650 gn is even available. You can try lighter in your setup if OAL is a concern.
I use 450 BM for hunting with suppressed subs. It’s perfect for the task and works extremely well! My point blank range is out to 150 yards while still being in my bdc reticle before having to do the math on bullet drop. That’s with 395-415 grain bullets. @Arkie Traveler
Dan
 
The American is 2” long case right?

300 ttsx seated to top of the bands will still have .700” of bullet out so you’d be 2.7”

Hornady 300 gr hp seated top of cannelure will be 2.44”.

Speer 400 gr sp seated to top groove would be close to 2.46”
 
Thanks for that info - that def lines up with what I was expecting, max 400 gr short ogive/flat point bullets - wondering if the barnes original 300 or 400 grain semi spitzer would fit? Might have to test it once I get my first batch of brass ready to go.
 
No, wish I had something that would be capable of using that big ole’ behemoth though! Most people don’t even know that a 650 gn is even available. You can try lighter in your setup if OAL is a concern.
I use 450 BM for hunting with suppressed subs. It’s perfect for the task and works extremely well! My point blank range is out to 150 yards while still being in my bdc reticle before having to do the math on bullet drop. That’s with 395-415 grain bullets. @Arkie Traveler
Dan
Care to share your load? I'm planning to use subs in the 10.5" upper I'm building.
 

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