.308 winchester
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Re15 is my first choice. Check out my post and load for 150sst. The post is Remmy model 7 comes alive.
What brass are you using?
John
John
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/308win/
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/308win/
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/308win/
Look in the neighborhood of 43.5 grains for a low node and work up to 46.2 for a high node. All precautions apply... work up and observe safety and pressure warnings...
Good luck...
John
Good luck...
John
I would try several powders such as Varget, RL-15, 4064, 8208 etc. and see what works best. I just purchased a Savage 308 model 10 FCP to go against my friend's new Savage model 10 also in 308. I too was looking for good powder to use as this is my first 308 and tried Varget, 8208, 4320, RL-15.
We both tried the 4 powders with various results. XBR (8208) worked very well with my friends rifle. He out shot me at 200 yards with 40 grain load of XBR, Lapua Brass, CCI 200, and 168 SMK, & 167 Lapua bullets. He tried with Varget, IMR 4320, & RL-15 too of various weights. Second best for him was IMR 4320 but nothing as close to his 40 grain load of XBR. He managed to put 4 out of 5 in the x ring at 200, those 4 touching with an XBR load. I was very impressed (have to buy breakfast next weekend) and so next day tried some loads myself.
I used Nosler brass, CCI 200, 168 SMK & 168 AMAX, w various weights of Varget, XBR, & RL-15. At 100 yds. I couldn't get anything to work with Varget under .9 and gave up on Varget for my 308. I tried the 4320 but seemed to get one always out from the others by almost an inch. My rifle seems to like the AMAX better for some reason too.
I was really bummed out as so many friends said it was their "best" powder was Varget and swore by it. But as I noticed RL-15 consistently threw 3 touching around .5 inches, with some nice .2 to .3 groups for my best of the day from 42 grains up to 44 grains of RL-15 with the AMAX, I decided to work with it mostly and compare it to XBR.
The RL-15 was definitely better in my rifle putting 5 shot groups into one ragged hole when I did my part and I still can get some very nice groups into the .2s.
But the point here is both Savage rifles and both same model seem to like totally different powders. I would buy several 1lb types if you are serious and keep everything else the same. You should be able to find which powder it will liked best as soon as you try them near a full load watching for pressure signs. One powder should do well and maybe you'll be lucky to find another powder that works well too.
Try several types and once you find one that seems more consistent than the others, try moving that charge up/down to see if you get better groups. Also, I noticed my groups went down a lot based on seating depth. My rifle definitely likes the bullets into the lands and I'm going to ask about that in another post.
Good luck,
d-rat
We both tried the 4 powders with various results. XBR (8208) worked very well with my friends rifle. He out shot me at 200 yards with 40 grain load of XBR, Lapua Brass, CCI 200, and 168 SMK, & 167 Lapua bullets. He tried with Varget, IMR 4320, & RL-15 too of various weights. Second best for him was IMR 4320 but nothing as close to his 40 grain load of XBR. He managed to put 4 out of 5 in the x ring at 200, those 4 touching with an XBR load. I was very impressed (have to buy breakfast next weekend) and so next day tried some loads myself.
I used Nosler brass, CCI 200, 168 SMK & 168 AMAX, w various weights of Varget, XBR, & RL-15. At 100 yds. I couldn't get anything to work with Varget under .9 and gave up on Varget for my 308. I tried the 4320 but seemed to get one always out from the others by almost an inch. My rifle seems to like the AMAX better for some reason too.
I was really bummed out as so many friends said it was their "best" powder was Varget and swore by it. But as I noticed RL-15 consistently threw 3 touching around .5 inches, with some nice .2 to .3 groups for my best of the day from 42 grains up to 44 grains of RL-15 with the AMAX, I decided to work with it mostly and compare it to XBR.
The RL-15 was definitely better in my rifle putting 5 shot groups into one ragged hole when I did my part and I still can get some very nice groups into the .2s.
But the point here is both Savage rifles and both same model seem to like totally different powders. I would buy several 1lb types if you are serious and keep everything else the same. You should be able to find which powder it will liked best as soon as you try them near a full load watching for pressure signs. One powder should do well and maybe you'll be lucky to find another powder that works well too.
Try several types and once you find one that seems more consistent than the others, try moving that charge up/down to see if you get better groups. Also, I noticed my groups went down a lot based on seating depth. My rifle definitely likes the bullets into the lands and I'm going to ask about that in another post.
Good luck,
d-rat
In my Remington 5-R milspec the best load for this weight of bullet is around 45.5 gr of Varget. Also does well with 44 gr of RL-15. I'm just starting to play around with 8208 XBR but still have about 30# of Varget to blast through. The way it looks, 8208 XBR will be what I order next time around.
Use the 165SST for my hog gun. I have taken several 2 for 1 with 165 SST | 44 grs Varget | CCI 200. Deadly accurate load
My factory model 7, 20" barrel woud not shoot Varget very well nor will it with custom 1:12, 20", barrel. I had to g back to W-748 and H4895. Both are faster than Varget. I bought 2 lbs of 8208 to try.
My factory model 7 barrel went south in less than 600 rounds. My custom barrel is heavier, and stiffer. The stock was pillar beaded and the lug glassed in. It is now shooting 150 Swift Sciroccos in a Knot hole.
Nat Lambeth
My factory model 7 barrel went south in less than 600 rounds. My custom barrel is heavier, and stiffer. The stock was pillar beaded and the lug glassed in. It is now shooting 150 Swift Sciroccos in a Knot hole.
Nat Lambeth
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