300 Win Mag vs. .308 recoil?

[AR15DCM]

Hello,

I just purchased a Rem700 SS 5R 24" in 300 win Mag. I own a .308 tactical bolt gun and was wondering how more recoil I should expect.

While waiting for the gun to get here I ordered a decent recoil pad and was thinking that depending on the recoil I would need to get a muzzle brake too.

Your thoughts?

Thanks,

 

[wmdron]

I own a Rem 700 VLS in .308 and a Savage model 11 in .300 win mag, the recoil is significantly stronger on the Savage. Some of the difference can be accounted to the weight of the rifles. I am not familiar with the rifle you have purchased but if it has a plastic stock it could be a real thumper . I would say a good recoil pad would go a long way in making the recoil of the .300 more manageable. I would try the mag with the good pad and see, if I felt I was flinching I would add a brake. So in short I agree with your plan. Hope this helps, Ron...

 

[AR15DCM]

Thanks for the insight. Here is a link to the rifle I bought, although from a different dealer;
Remington - 700 SS 5R Milspec w/Threaded Barrel, .300WM

Weighs 9lbs without scope,rings,base. I figure another 3 lbs for all that?

 

[dansig]

I have a Rem700 Sendero in .300 Win Mag, the recoil is just to much for me, 5 shots with 230gn Hybrid and my shoulder is hurting the next day...

got a suppressor for it and with that it shoots like a .243 and sounds like .22 LR

I don't think I'll shoot it again without suppressor.

 

[LRPV]

I have a 300WM Sendero too but the recoil doesn't really bother me until you get up in the 208-210 grain and up bullets. With 180's and and under I can shoot it "all day long" and it doesn't bother me.
Jason

 

[AR15DCM]

I will probably be shooting the MK 248 MOD 1 round which has the 220gr SMK. So I can expect a lot of recoil based on what you guys are telling me. I need to start saving for that muzzle brake :-\

 

[flinginammo]

i have a weatherby 300 WIN mag. i have shot it 40 times in a day looking for a good deer load. went back to my custom built bartlien barrel 7mm-08 with 162gr sst's(close to a 308) which shoots around .4moa...i was shooting 1.5 inches with it. grab a snap cap and relized i had developed a flinch from shooting the 300 mag. just because you can handle the recoil physicaly doesnt mean you can handle it mentally. but everybody is different. So good luck.



Shannon

 

[flinginammo]

I will probably be shooting the MK 248 MOD 1 round which has the 220gr SMK. So I can expect a lot of recoil based on what you guys are telling me. I need to start saving for that muzzle brake :-\

The volume from a 300 mag with a muzzle break is unimaginable!!!! if this is a deer rifle dont even think about a break. you will not think about putting plugs in you ears when a sad daddy walks out. There has been alot of deer killed with a 243 loaded with a rem soft point 100gr. if you are going plinking with it with a buddy you can be just as accurate with 180 gr. bullet and you dont need a break specially if you are hand loading. there is nothing that 308 cant do. unless you are planning on shooting at 30 ft square target at a mile with the 300... just my 2 cents tfwiw.....
shannon

 

[markm87]

My buddy has the 5R 300 WM. He put the AAC 51t brake on it, and it recoils LESS than my SPS tactical 308 with no recoil.

If you plan to shoot it a lot, a break is the way to go. We pour ammo through his gun... no pads or other techniques. A good thread on brake will tame it right down.

 

[Forum Boss]

You can check the recoil force with the free "Point Blank" ballistics program. This is one of the extra built-in features. You need to input rifle weight, bullet wt (in grains), powder weigth (in grains), and bullet velocity

Assuming both rifles weigh 12 pounds, here are some examples:

.308 Win, 168gr SMK @ 2758 fps = 12.09 ft/lbs
(Hodgdon Max Load, IMR 4895)

.300 Win Magnum, 200gr Nosler Part @ 2860 fps = 21.33 ft/lbs
(Hodgdon Max load, IMR 4350)

FREE Software: http://huntingnut.com/index.php?name=pointblank

 

[AR15DCM]

I will probably be shooting the MK 248 MOD 1 round which has the 220gr SMK. So I can expect a lot of recoil based on what you guys are telling me. I need to start saving for that muzzle brake :-\

The volume from a 300 mag with a muzzle break is unimaginable!!!! if this is a deer rifle dont even think about a break. you will not think about putting plugs in you ears when a sad daddy walks out. There has been alot of deer killed with a 243 loaded with a rem soft point 100gr. if you are going plinking with it with a buddy you can be just as accurate with 180 gr. bullet and you dont need a break specially if you are hand loading. there is nothing that 308 cant do. unless you are planning on shooting at 30 ft square target at a mile with the 300... just my 2 cents tfwiw.....
shannon

It won't be a deer rifle, it will be a tactical rifle.

 

[AR15DCM]

My buddy has the 5R 300 WM. He put the AAC 51t brake on it, and it recoils LESS than my SPS tactical 308 with no recoil.

If you plan to shoot it a lot, a break is the way to go. We pour ammo through his gun... no pads or other techniques. A good thread on brake will tame it right down.

That is good to know! I'm not sure if I will get the AAC, but I will definitely get one based on what you told me.
Thanks!

 

[AR15DCM]

You can check the recoil force with the free "Point Blank" ballistics program. This is one of the extra built-in features. You need to input rifle weight, bullet wt (in grains), powder weigth (in grains), and bullet velocity

Assuming both rifles weigh 12 pounds, here are some examples:

.308 Win, 168gr SMK @ 2758 fps = 12.09 ft/lbs
(Hodgdon Max Load, IMR 4895)

.300 Win Magnum, 200gr Nosler Part @ 2860 fps = 21.33 ft/lbs
(Hodgdon Max load, IMR 4350)

FREE Software: http://huntingnut.com/index.php?name=pointblank

Thank you for that info, I am on the site now.

 

[RandyD]

When I got my .300 Win. Mag., I shot 40 rounds sighting in and getting familiar with the rifle. The next day, my shoulder had a nasty looking bruise. Since then, I have purchased a Harrell's muzzle brake, http://harrellsprec.com/index.php?crn=208&rn=385&action=show_detail , and the felt recoil is more than a .243 Win. and less than a .308 Win. The brake only costs $30.00 and is well worth it.

 

[CaptainMal]

Use multiple rifles with muzzle brakes. The advantages are huge, especially with tuner brakes. Always use ear protection when shooting anything for practice. Same thing with varmint hunting. Big game is different.

For big game you are not likely to shoot many times and all that often. After multiple kills and decades, I honestly cannot remember the gun going off or being affected by noise. My concentration is so on the hold, "clean trigger break" and hit that it seems silent to me.

Yes. I can hear.

 

[AR15DCM]

When I got my .300 Win. Mag., I shot 40 rounds sighting in and getting familiar with the rifle. The next day, my shoulder had a nasty looking bruise. Since then, I have purchased a Harrell's muzzle brake, http://harrellsprec.com/index.php?crn=208&rn=385&action=show_detail , and the felt recoil is more than a .243 Win. and less than a .308 Win. The brake only costs $30.00 and is well worth it.

When I go to that link there are several of them in one picture. Which one would fit the Rem heavy barrel?

 

[AR15DCM]

Use multiple rifles with muzzle brakes. The advantages are huge, especially with tuner brakes. Always use ear protection when shooting anything for practice. Same thing with varmint hunting. Big game is different.

For big game you are not likely to shoot many times and all that often. After multiple kills and decades, I honestly cannot remember the gun going off or being affected by noise. My concentration is so on the hold, "clean trigger break" and hit that it seems silent to me.

Yes. I can hear.

Which brake do you use?

 

[AR15DCM]

Here is a question guys.

Which brake design provides the best reduction in felt recoil? I have checked several brands and there doesn't seem to be a standard way of denoting the reduction... some say %40 others say nothing about how well their product works.

 

[RandyD]

When I got my .300 Win. Mag., I shot 40 rounds sighting in and getting familiar with the rifle. The next day, my shoulder had a nasty looking bruise. Since then, I have purchased a Harrell's muzzle brake, http://harrellsprec.com/index.php?crn=208&rn=385&action=show_detail , and the felt recoil is more than a .243 Win. and less than a .308 Win. The brake only costs $30.00 and is well worth it.

When I go to that link there are several of them in one picture. Which one would fit the Rem heavy barrel?

In the photo, I have two of the one on the far right. Just call the business, provide them with the outside diameter measurement of your barrel and they will suggest a size that will fit.

 

[AR15DCM]

The price is right