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264 Win Mag

Thought I would share some information on a caliber, that when I was a kid reading gun and ammo manufacture catalogs and reading about ballistics I had to have.
Picked up a Remmy 700 CDL, blue and fluted NIB for a bid I thought would never win. Logged back on to GB and there it was – you are the winner! Several days later I went to the not so local gun shop (few more miles is not an inconvenience when the service is always informed and pleasant). Parted with a few dollars for the transfer transaction and a few bottles of powder and headed home. Popped off the stock, trigger and barrel, lapped the lugs, pillar and devcon’d the stock and polished and put new springs in the trigger. The trigger now broke at a crisp 1.5#, the barrel was floated and the lugs were mated perfectly.
I had a 4 x 12 Nikon monarch (old style) that I put on top with an EGW base and Burris Signature rings. Just a word about the EGW scope base while it is still rattling around in my brain box. It sits pretty high and even with med rings your scope is going to be pretty high. The front end of the base extends out a couple of inches on the long action version. For mounting big scopes on big guns I am sure this would be a benefit, on a hunting rifle…… Out with the hacksaw and a few minutes later and some flat black paint the base fit perfectly and no scope interference (Due to the long base you have to mount the scope forward or the objective hits the high base extension).
I loaded up ½ doz or so three round strings to try with WW 264 brass that I had prep’d (turned, cleaned up and annealed) using Nosler 120 grain boolits, H4831 lit with Fed 215s. Seated them at 3.345 and didn’t give it another thought until I was at the bench and wouldn’t you know they wouldn’t chamber. So back to town (20 mins each way) seated them to 3.245 making sure they were plenty short and back out I go. Bolt closed but was kinda stiff so I ejected a round and noticed that the rifling was still scuffing the boolits pretty good. My starting loads were pretty mild so I did not worry about pressure problems of having the bullets jammed into the rifling. I shot the first three to get into the center at 50 yards cleaning after each shot. Moved the target out to 100 and the next three at that distance went into ½ inch. That was with cleaning between each shot and the next three sets each going up 1 grain did about the same. To say the least I am happy as heck with my childhood dream and will be taking it on a caribou hunt my buddies and me are going on next year.
Maybe it is just my gun but the throat seems to me to be pretty darn short especially for a remmy.
I broke my rule of checking seating depth with dummy round, probably the excitement. Have a bunch of other rifles but I think this might be my new favorite.
It makes a helluva noise and packs a helluva punch
 
Duh! I'd have been happy to just shove some 120 grain ammo into it to try it out. For this caliber I'd break my 300 yard rule. This caliber is a true 400 yard deer and antelope killer with a really great 6-24 power scope, set on 20x. However, I'd still do my best to get within 300 yards of my quarry: force of habit. Cliffy
 
Gotta shoot at a distance you are comfortable with and in a caliber that will kill humanely when it gets there. I have a 7 STW Sendero with a Loopy 6 x 20 LRT but I think inside of 5 football fields my new love might hold her own.
 
You may really want to rethink your bullet selection for caribou. The 120 ballistic tip going as fast as a 264 win mag will push it will almost evaporate on the hair inside 200 yards. I chose the 130 Accubond for use in my 264 mag with 66.5 grs Retumbo it is a tack driver and leaves the muzzle of my 27 3/4" barrel at 3350 fps. I took 4 deer with it from 98 to 275 yards this past season and the bullet really did a great job on them. I have used the 120 Ballistic tip in my 6.5X55 Swede at 3000 fps and at 100 yards on average size deer of 150 lb it really comes apart and blows the front shoulders into pulp. You will be getting anywhere from 3400 to 3600 fps from your 264 mag at least that is what I got out of mine with the 120 BT and that is much faster than they were made to withstand and stay together.
 
2506 said:
You may really want to rethink your bullet selection for caribou. The 120 ballistic tip going as fast as a 264 win mag will push it will almost evaporate on the hair inside 200 yards. I chose the 130 Accubond for use in my 264 mag with 66.5 grs Retumbo it is a tack driver and leaves the muzzle of my 27 3/4" barrel at 3350 fps. I took 4 deer with it from 98 to 275 yards this past season and the bullet really did a great job on them. I have used the 120 Ballistic tip in my 6.5X55 Swede at 3000 fps and at 100 yards on average size deer of 150 lb it really comes apart and blows the front shoulders into pulp. You will be getting anywhere from 3400 to 3600 fps from your 264 mag at least that is what I got out of mine with the 120 BT and that is much faster than they were made to withstand and stay together.
I would have to agree with 2506. I haven't ever shot a Caribou, but have taken 100s of whitetails. I have used many calibers to do so. I have shot deer with many different bullets. I like sierra's GameKing. How ever they do expand a little more than I like. They are not a bounded bullet. I'm just the type of person that likes a complete pass threw on whitetail size game or bigger. The accubound has proven to me this past deer season that it is the best of both worlds. It fragments to a point but retains the core to punch threw muscle, and bone to give you Maximum penetration. As well shock and destruction of the vital organs. The 130 accubond by Nosler is the best bullet I have use to date. Like I said it seems to give you the best of both worlds. I don't know about Caribou but I have shot some really tough whitetails! Some of them have had such a strong will to live! It is still amazing to me how some can still go 50yrds with no lungs or heart left! The toughest yet was a 8 1/2yr old doe. I took this year. I shot her right behind the shoulder at the lower 1/3rd at 125yrds. Bullet was a 130gr accubound from a 270wsm. MV was 3150, when I gutted her the lungs and heart were not there. They were liquid! When tracking the deer there was so much blood I was able to walk at a steady paste following the blood trail. I don't know how she didn't drop in her tracks. The only explanation I can think of is the sure will to live!
 
My Dad had a 264 mag in a win model 70 pre 64... I was 13( long time ago) when he bought it and remember fondly the times we reloaded for it and shooting woodchucks out to 400 yards and beyond...a great rifle and caliber.... I also have a 7 mm STW and love it...but I would love to have a 264 just for the memories...it will be a great flat shooting rifle...140 sgk"s is what Dad loaded for deer...never saw one run away! Good luck
 
my personal experience with the 264 win mag is very good as well. I used the sierra 120 spt. shot an elk cow at 298 yards, quartering away. it did very well. the offside hide stopped the bullet after passing thru shoulder. not bad for those "light" bullets. by the way, after skinning and field dressing, the hanging weight at the butcher's was 256#, which put the live weight well over 500#. she only went 20 yards or so before falling over. so thumbs up for the sierra bullets! i do agree with above statement about the 120 nosler ballistic tips, they expand fast!!! don't believe me, just shoot a turkey with one once, which you shouldn't do because there will be a pile of feathers and all the meat up in the trees.
 
The reason that the light bullets like the 120 BT and the Sierra have worked in the cases mentioned is because of the distance they traveled before they impacted. It is impact speed of the bullet that you need to be concerned about. The ballistic tip is designed to have an impact speed 3000 fps or under and the Sierra is in the same ball park. If you start a 120 BT at 3200 fps by the time it gets out to 200 yards it has slowed down to or below the 3000 fps impact speed that works well. But if you start it out at 3400 to 3600 fps like most 264 mags will you can have trouble with them and loose an animal. Where you have problems is you never know where that animal you are after will show up. If you have hunted very long at all you most likely have found like I have that you plan for that loooooog range shot and the animal pops out right under your nose. The Nosler Accubond is designed to operate at any high velocity. So you don't have to worry about that close in shot and having the bullet blow up and get no penetration into the vitals.
 
Thank you for for your replies and wisdom.
I am using the 120 Nosler BT for wear in and general mess'n around and have a box of 130 grain Accubonds which I will use for the caribou hunt. In fact, I use Accubonds for most everything above coyotes that I shoot at. Great idea (Rem core lock't) with Nosler's jacket and plastic tip, and shoots like target bullets, drives deep like partitions.
For example
110 accubonds (25-06) Remmy 700 (wife's)
110 25-06AI
130 accubonds 264 WM
130 270 WSM buddies
140 accubonds 270 Win 3 guns one mine
I could go on but you get the point
If someone asks me what bullet to use it is always my answer unless they just gotta have something different.
Why? I use them for deer management about 10 to 15 does a year and I shoot them at every angle in as close as 25 yards and out there at bragging distance and almost always it's DRT. Pass throughs are the rule unless it's the 25s on raking shots then you are asking allot.
I spent the better part of my youth working in a family meat store and every year we processed in excess of 500 deer. Given the chance I would chat up the shooter and get the distance and gun and bullet if known. Learned tons back then about terminal performance. If ya gotta know a 300 Weatherby with 150 grain Sp would get the front shoulders tossed right in the bone barrel. Think they were loaded with Hornady spire points sure made butchering easy. Sierra bullets seem to always loose their jackets but it may have been too many 150 gr in 06s in close.

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