22br or 22-250 build

[6.5 shooter]

Hi folks,

Im going to be building a 22br or 22-250 to shoot 75 grain bullets for mainly varminting.
I was wondering what would youre pick be over the two cartridges listed and from experience what velocities are attainable using 75 grain bullets?
What barrel length is recommended?

Thanks

Garry

 

[Tim Singleton]

I had both for a while. Still regret selling the 22br. It is capable of reaching close to the same velocity as 22-250. In my opinion a more accurate caetridge. It was much easier to find a load for.
My 22br shot circles around the 22-250 I had. Both on savage actions

 

[BradY]

Depends on if you want it to feed from a mag or not. Short stubby rounds like 22BR dont feed from a mag well. But accuracy is king at the end of the day and they are very good. Performance wise, consider running the 22BR reamer in 100 thou extra- presto 22BRX! and 22-250 velocity. They also feed a bit better from a magazine- mine fed from a howa internal mag from a 22-250 action fine.

 

[CatShooter]

Hi folks,

Im going to be building a 22br or 22-250 to shoot 75 grain bullets for mainly varminting.
I was wondering what would youre pick be over the two cartridges listed and from experience what velocities are attainable using 75 grain bullets?
What barrel length is recommended?

Thanks

Garry

With Lapua brass now being available for the 22-250, and if you use the same quality of parts, action, barrel, and workmanship to build the rifles, they will be equally accurate.

The 22-250 will have a velocity advantage.

At our club holds 400 yd varmint rifle matches (no BR flat bottomed rifles), there are two 22-BR's and several very custom 22-250's, and you can't tell the difference in group sizes.

 

[johnmyers]

I had both for a while. Still regret selling the 22br. It is capable of reaching close to the same velocity as 22-250. In my opinion a more accurate caetridge. It was much easier to find a load for.
My 22br shot circles around the 22-250 I had. Both on savage actions

Same with me only on a Remington, only reason I see for a 22-250 if it needs to be used as a repeater.
Barrell life will be better with a 22br.

 

[6.5 shooter]

Hi folks,

Im going to be building a 22br or 22-250 to shoot 75 grain bullets for mainly varminting.
I was wondering what would youre pick be over the two cartridges listed and from experience what velocities are attainable using 75 grain bullets?
What barrel length is recommended?

Thanks

Garry

With Lapua brass now being available for the 22-250, and if you use the same quality of parts, action, barrel, and workmanship to build the rifles, they will be equally accurate.

The 22-250 will have a velocity advantage.

At our club holds 400 yd varmint rifle matches (no BR flat bottomed rifles), there are two 22-BR's and several very custom 22-250's, and you can't tell the difference in group sizes.

Thanks guys for the info,
What sort of velocities can these members in youre club obtain and with what bullets?

Garry

 

[CatShooter]

Hi folks,

Im going to be building a 22br or 22-250 to shoot 75 grain bullets for mainly varminting.
I was wondering what would youre pick be over the two cartridges listed and from experience what velocities are attainable using 75 grain bullets?
What barrel length is recommended?

Thanks

Garry

With Lapua brass now being available for the 22-250, and if you use the same quality of parts, action, barrel, and workmanship to build the rifles, they will be equally accurate.

The 22-250 will have a velocity advantage.

At our club holds 400 yd varmint rifle matches (no BR flat bottomed rifles), there are two 22-BR's and several very custom 22-250's, and you can't tell the difference in group sizes.

Thanks guys for the info,
What sort of velocities can these members in youre club obtain and with what bullets?

Garry

For the heavy bullet guys, the 75 A-Max is very popular - with the 22-BR, ~3,000 fps. The 22-250, ~3,300/3,350 fps.

About 1/3rd of the shooters are heavy bullet shooters, the rest of the guys are shooting 50/55gr BK's and V-Maxs.

No one shoots "match" bullet at the varmint matches, it is considered unsporting

 

[22BRGUY]

For velocity comparisons and loads you can go to a website called www. reloadersnest.com. I t will give you actual shooters reports on experiences they had and the loads they used. You may also want to look at the 22 250 AI there as well as the 22 dasher and the possibility of using up to the 90 grainers which are awesome.

Is there a certain type of varmint you will be going after or just varmints in general?

 

[6.5 shooter]

It will mostly be rabbits and crows from 300 yards to around 600 maybe a bit more depending on the area.
I have 223 and swift shooting light bullets for the closer stuff and 6mm and 6.5 for further away.
Would 3000 fps with a 75 grainer be conservative for a 22br?

 

[22BRGUY]

In my experience, I'm able to easily reach 3100 fps with 80 bergers.

 

[FroggyOne2]

Yes, it would be conservative. My fire form load was 30grs of Varget with the 75's and it would hammer.

 

[22BRGUY]

I shot and loaded for 22 250 for many years and really liked it and shot many types of varmints including fox, coyotes,woodchucks,crows, stray farm cats and others. In reloading though, the 22 250 case had some issues for me. I think because of its tapered design, there was case length growth. I would bump the shoulders back about .002 but had to trim virtually every time. Too often I thought, a bright ring would appear just ahead of the case head indicating case head separation starting and upon checking with an RCBS casemaster it would confirm it....then throw the case. Thats why I suggested that if you choose to go 22 250, the Ackley version would help eliminate most if not all of that. In my mind the BR cases are much more efficient powder burners in terms of the amount of powder burned vs. the velocity achieved and I believe they are more inherently accurate. Its the reason the wonderful little .222 has been replaced for the most part by the .22 PPC in competition. There is absolutely something good to be said though about the better "feedability" of the longer thinner cases in the field if rapid consecutive firing is desired, for instance as Catshooter mentions in dogtowns.

 

[CatShooter]

I never had case growth problems with the 22-250.

My first 22-250 was a 40-XB Rangemaster I bought in 1975. I bought 400 pieces of Winchester brass for it. I ate up that barrel on PDs and got another barrel... ate that one up on PD's too.

Over the years, when I rebarreled the rifle, for the first firing on the new barrel, I would full size just enough to close the bolt hard, oil the case and start it in the new rifle. Form that point on, I only neck sized the cases.
I went through 5 barrels with those cases, and never had a problem with growth - I kept them at negative headspace and they didn't grow.

I lost some of the cases in upstate NY woodchuck fields, but when I swore off the 22-250 (I took the 12 step program), I still had most of the cases.

Each case had been fired ~45 times and fullsized 4 times. I quit the 22-250 and rebarreled the 40-XB for the 6th time, in Rem .244x10".

I recently came across a almost new (45 rounds fired) 22-250 varmint rifle, and decided to start with new Lapua.

They will NEVER see a FL sizer, until the rifle is rebarreled.

I never had case stretch, or a head separation... and that goes for all of my rifles (of which are a LOT).

Manage your cases well, and you will have no problems.

 

[Phil]

This debate always sparks "lively" opinions,so here is mine..... ;D


I Have a .22BR/.22BRDX and a .22 Dasher

I use the 75 amax in the Dasher for some long range work.

I really like the case capacity in these ranges,for my purposes the .22-250 is just too much,but that`s just me.........

Good luck in your decision.

Phil

 

[SongdogHunter]

I prefer the BR

SDH

 

[FroggyOne2]

Phil,

I would really like to hear every good and bad about your 22BRDX!

 

[Phil]

Froggy,

PM sent,no secrets,just don`t want to de-rail the thread.

 

[BradY]

I used to shoot a 22BRX with 69gr noslers at 3364fps very accurately. I could have stoked it up further but this was the load it liked. The 75's would do 3200 out of a 26" barrel (8 twist) fine in a BRX or dasher

 

[FroggyOne2]

Froggy,

PM sent,no secrets,just don`t want to de-rail the thread.

And I truly appreciate your doing that too! Thank you sir.

 

[greg8012]

if you are building a 22 br and you want it to feed great use a savage spring and a savage 220 swift follower I have 2 brs one in a Remington the other in ruger both work great