22BR Cases Won’t Come Out

[xswanted]

Hi guys,

I’ve asked something like this before but I’m still puzzled by this.

I have a 22BR. It shoots very well.

New brass chambers tight. Not overly tight, it’s a good crush type of fit, what you would expect from a custom rifle.

After the first firing the brass extracts and ejects fine.

I neck size with a bushing neck sizer.

After the second firing the bolt will lift right up but it won’t come backwards. It’s like the brass is stuck in the chamber. Usually if I bump the bolt with my hand it will pop out.

Is this a sizing issue? Would a full length sizer cure this? Could it be something to do with the trigger/bolt assembly?

Any thoughts are welcome.

Thank you

 

[#40Fan]

Did you FL size the brass before the first firing?

Are there any marks on the cases indicating a rough chamber?

 

[NorCalMikie]

Sounds like the shoulder needs to be pushed back. Neck sizing only works for a bit then full length sizing needs to come into play. I neck size then body size as the brass gets tight in the chamber, like you have now.
Best bet is custom made dies made from YOUR fired brass out of your chamber.

 

[tmwinds]

Just guessing but does your rifle have a Remington Action? Sounds like little or no primary extraction to pop the brass loose and back. Also, put the neck sizing die away and get a properly sized FL sizing die that will reduce the base of the brass the proper amount. Harrell's Precision is a great place to get a semi custom die based on a piece of you fired brass.

 

[dkhunt14]

Is it possible it's a Remington chamber and you rising Norma or Lapua brass? That brass is bigger at the back end then the Remington BR brass. If not, it's a sizing issue. New brass should fit. Maybe the dies don't match. I never neck size and only full length size with a .002 max shoulder bump. Matt

 

[22BRGUY]

Can't top what's already been suggested. I use a Redding body die and collet die the necks but other ways work well also but shoulder bump .002 and resizing the case base are a must after 2 firings

 

[243winxb]

Reduce the powder charge, see if it makes a difference.

 

[Gabe22BR]

“I neck size with a bushing neck sizer. ”
“Would a fulllength sizer cure this?”



Throw the neck sizer away, buy you a full length sizing die, with a bushing. For $75,& send 3fired cases to Harrell’s precision http://harrellsprec.com/index.php/products/full-length-die


Your welcome..

 

[Dusty Stevens]

do the same thing every firing. that means a FL sizing every time. dont even fall into the trap of owning a neck sizer. of course that would put us 5-6 posts a week less around here.

 

[DaveTooley]

By an overwhelming margin the number 1 cause for difficult extraction is the lack of clearance between the case and the chamber. There are multiple ways to arrive at this condition. 1. Dimensionally mismatched brass and chamber. The other is not FL sizing which leads to #1.
You should not have any resistance chambering new brass. Sounds like you're starting with an interference fit.

 

[tuttlefarm]

Bolt timing is off, for primary extraction.

 

[hogpatrol]

^^^^^ all of this ^^^^^^ and are you trimming after the initial neck down operation?

What is the length of your brass before the first firing?

 

[M-61]

it’s a good crush type of fit

Not sure what you mean by a 'good crush type fit.' Crush to me implies a shoulder too far out or a bullet jamming hard into the rifling. Can you chamer and extract a loaded cartridge properly?

 

[xswanted]

Thanks to all.

By crush fit I mean I can feel the bolt close on the brass vs an empty chamber. If that makes semse. It’s not tight, but you know it’s there.

I ordered a FL die to try and see if that cures it.

 

[xswanted]

Reduce the powder charge, see if it makes a difference.

I’ve tried this, with two powders and have the same results. Thank you!

 

[xswanted]

Did you FL size the brass before the first firing?

Are there any marks on the cases indicating a rough chamber?

No marks on the brass.

Did not FL size.

Have ordered a FL die to use now.

 

[xswanted]

Is it possible it's a Remington chamber and you rising Norma or Lapua brass? That brass is bigger at the back end then the Remington BR brass. If not, it's a sizing issue. New brass should fit. Maybe the dies don't match. I never neck size and only full length size with a .002 max shoulder bump. Matt

Thank you, but I had the reamer made from a dummy round using Lapua brass.

 

[xswanted]

By an overwhelming margin the number 1 cause for difficult extraction is the lack of clearance between the case and the chamber. There are multiple ways to arrive at this condition. 1. Dimensionally mismatched brass and chamber. The other is not FL sizing which leads to #1.
You should not have any resistance chambering new brass. Sounds like you're starting with an interference fit.

Interference fit?

Can you elaborate on that?

Thank you!

 

[xswanted]

Bolt timing is off, for primary extraction.

How is this corrected?

 

[xswanted]

^^^^^ all of this ^^^^^^ and are you trimming after the initial neck down operation?

What is the length of your brass before the first firing?

Yep all brass was trimmed after necking it down.

I want to say it was 1.520 but I’d have to look. However I did trim all the brass.