22br 700 log

[Dfish1247]

Finally got this together. Rem 700 SA been trued, 2oz jewel trigger, bartlein 1:8 hv 24” barrel, no turn neck, HS stock.

First loads are 77gr smk, Peterson brass, cci 400, and win 760 powder. Starting at 27.5gr and upping .3gr to 28.5gr, .010” off lands. These will be the heaviest pills I’ll use in it, have plenty, plus 65-75gr as well, and plenty of them.

Hoping it’ll do well.

 

[troupe]

Looking forward to hear the outcome.

 

[17VLD]

Great choice of cartridge and a very nice looking build. My friend who first took me pd shooting back in '95 in Colorado was very fond of the 22br and rightly so. He was a tunnel rat in Vietnam and was a very good shooter. I am sure you will like shooting that rig and also look forward to hearing how it does.
Matt

 

[NC/Br Shooter]

What kind of stock is this? Looks like a HS presision benchrest, But If it is, I didn't know they made that stock.

 

[Dfish1247]

Yup, here’s the part number. Heavy varmint contour fits like a glove

PSC043​

I hope this thing lays em right over each other, I’ll find out Friday.

 

[Dfish1247]

Got to try it today. It has promise, the two highest charges put five in .300” at 100yds. The 28.7gr was the tightest group, so I’ll keep going up as it has plenty more room.

Made a 5 shot group, then would go back to the 223 panda for a while, rinse and repeat.

I’m also going to try AA2520, varget, blc2, and n135. Any other VV to try with heavy bullets?

 

[boltfluter]

AA2015 was very good for me shooting a 75 A-max. Bug holes were quite common. Good shooting too you.
Paul

 

[Dfish1247]

Gave it the college try again.

First pic is 28.7gr win760. Three in one hole, I moved my hand on the one that hit left, shot way low, I can’t explain, but I’ll blame myself. This one definitely tightened up the higher the charge, 28.7gr was the max I loaded. I’m going to work up to 29.7gr in .2gr increments and see if I find something.

Second pic is 29gr h4350, it has promise, trying to hold on that blob of a dot was awful. I’ll blame me as well. These also didn’t act like they had much pressure either, recoil was a weak push vs a snap, and the brass fell out. How do you all feel about working up to 32gr in .5gr increments?

Today completed the first firing on 50 pieces of brass. All have used cci 400’s as well, didn’t think I mentioned that. Now they get trimmed and the nit picky begins.

 

[Dfish1247]

Meant to ask, any of you used RMR’s 75gr at all? Doesn’t have to be for this cartridge, but for any 22cf stuff? Wondering how they’d do vs sierra, Berger, lapua?

 

[Dfish1247]

Here was the two I shot today. 31gr h4350 for the first, 31.7gr h4350 for second.

The one way low on the first target was me, I watched myself jerk when I pulled the trigger. My dad was laughing at me for it.

Second group, I don’t know, I seen every hit in the scope, who knows. I’ll blame me or the bullet, mostly me.

Tried up to 32.5gr h4350. Groups went south in a hurry, not that these two are anything to brag about, but the others were shotgun pattern.

Anywho, I have 69gr smk, 77gr nosler custom competition, and 70gr Berger varmints. Going to try those next and see what happens.

 

[kochie]

Here was the two I shot today. 31gr h4350 for the first, 31.7gr h4350 for second.

The one way low on the first target was me, I watched myself jerk when I pulled the trigger. My dad was laughing at me for it.

Second group, I don’t know, I seen every hit in the scope, who knows. I’ll blame me or the bullet, mostly me.

Tried up to 32.5gr h4350. Groups went south in a hurry, not that these two are anything to brag about, but the others were shotgun pattern.

Anywho, I have 69gr smk, 77gr nosler custom competition, and 70gr Berger varmints. Going to try those next and see what happens.

great cartridge i had a 20 BR loved it . 22 BR would be great option also lots of bullet options.

 

[Dfish1247]

So I came into 109 pieces of twice fired lapua brass from my dad. He had used it in a 6br xp100 and it swelled at the shoulder junction too much to fit in the other 6br’s he has. Come to find out, the xp is 6 rem, not Norma. The shoulder junction is bigger on the Remington. This stuff wouldn’t fit very well in the 22br either, stiff closing bolt even after full length resize and trimming to 1.505”. I bought a small base 6br rem body die and that fixed the stiff bolt for me, his, forget it.

With the story out of the way, I’m going to try 31-31.7gr h4350, 77smk, cci 400 in both the lapua and the Peterson and see if one does better than the other. The Peterson is now twice fired as well, but it’s only neck sized and shoulder bumped .001”.

 

[bobcat93]

Congratulations!...its a fantastic feeling to finally close the wallet on a rifle project..they sure do linger some times.
I have a 6.5 creed when the barrels done its being replaced with a 22br.
ive had a barrel, dies, 4 box of Lapua 22br brass collecting dust since about 2018 (i think) waiting to shoot out my 6.5 barrel and i dont even shoot the 6.5 often enough to justify the change
It could be something my son gets around to in his life time after im long gone..haha..but the 22br seeds have been planted
The 6mm & 22br was the reason i came here many years ago. And boy have you folks given me alot to think about over that time
Ive learned so much about shooting, cartridges, and rifles here. It would have literally taken a life time of information to collect if even at all.

Id like to take a moment and thank all of our predecessor here for giving so freely of themselves with all the knowledge they have collected. This forum is the closest thing i have in my life even close to a shooting, and reloading mentor.
So for that id like to thank everyone.
This forum is a special place i escape too regularly.

when i here the news a new 22br or 6mmbr is born..well brother..go tell it on the mountains.hahaha..let that old world know hipp-hipp- hooray ok maybe thats a bit much but you get my point.
Your project keeps all of us attached to our roots and why we are here in the first place.
Boy is it easy to forget, we get so wrapped up in some heated discussion or comparison of cartridges
I believe its actually 4 cartridges that build the foundation of this forum the BR's & the PPC's everything else is just white noise.

 

[bobcat93]

Gave it the college try again.

First pic is 28.7gr win760. Three in one hole, I moved my hand on the one that hit left, shot way low, I can’t explain, but I’ll blame myself. This one definitely tightened up the higher the charge, 28.7gr was the max I loaded. I’m going to work up to 29.7gr in .2gr increments and see if I find something.

Second pic is 29gr h4350, it has promise, trying to hold on that blob of a dot was awful. I’ll blame me as well. These also didn’t act like they had much pressure either, recoil was a weak push vs a snap, and the brass fell out. How do you all feel about working up to 32gr in .5gr increments?

Today completed the first firing on 50 pieces of brass. All have used cci 400’s as well, didn’t think I mentioned that. Now they get trimmed and the nit picky begins.

Aaaaaaad he's off!..rounding the first corner of the track..hahaha..you are at the best part of a rifle build brother!...the eye of the storm..enjoy, and remember to savor the moments.

 

[Dfish1247]

Changed my mind again on what I was doing. Loaded the lapua brass with 27-29gr varget, cci 450, and 69gr smk .010” off the lands. These aren’t in the case neck much at all, maybe 1/3 way in vs the 77smk being just above the shoulder/neck junction.

None grouped any better than the others shown above. I did notice the barrel heated up faster vs the 760 and h4350, it being 82* outside didn’t help matters.

Had something concerning happen, four of the fifty rounds made the bolt hard to lift, but had no ejector mark and extracted easily. All others lifted easily. I marked those pieces and while resizing everything last night, they were more difficult to resize, but went in the chamber just as easy as the others. I used a Redding full length on all fifty pieces.

I wonder if the four were one time anomalies taking my chamber shape or something else? Before the first loading, I used a small base body die to knock everything back down to fit where these were fired previously in an xp100 with a generous chamber.

Going to try again Monday. I’ll stick to this plan, win 760, cci 400, and 69gr smk. Going to load 25 each Peterson and Lapua. Five shot loads this time vs 10.

 

[MTGunner]

See classifieds as I have 22BR brass and dies for sale. MTG

 

[Dfish1247]

Calipers say .501”. Starting to get somewhere.

Didn’t load anything like I said I was, these were leftovers from Friday. 27gr-28.5gr varget all grouped around .750”, I used up the rest of those, then the five of 29gr varget my dad shot made this picture.

Here’s where it’ll get funky. I ordered .247, .248, and .249 bushings for the bushing neck die I have, so the brass shot today needs segregated from the rest until I shoot them as well to keep everything even. I also broke down and ordered a headspace comparator kit. I’ve just been doing the touch the shell holder with the die thing. The audacity, lol.

Ive been wanting to ask, but I’m using a hoppes front rest and eagle rear rest. The front rest was $25ish 25 years ago, the rear was $50ish, but fits wonderfully. Would I see much benefit splurging on one of the Sinclair rests? We don’t compete, just enjoy the hobby.

 

[Dfish1247]

Went today since I was off. Received a Caldwell BR rock rest for Christmas and broke it in today, I like it.

The .249 bushing loads performed the best. But, I don’t know if it’s the load/bushing combo, or the rifle likes to be a little dirty. It was squeaky clean when I started, the .247 and .248 loads done about like above. Those combined accounted for 30 shots, five round loads, then started on the .249s and it tightened up immensely. All three of the .249s made one ragged hole. So, I just wiped the outside off and left the rest alone.

All load ladders used were the same, only difference was bushing used.

Also broke the 500 magnum out and set the scope after putting it on over a year ago, it really likes 390gr spire points and imr4227, my wrist does not, lol.

 

[Dfish1247]

Went again today.

The loads were N135, 75gr vld target bergers, rem 7.5 primer. 10 each of these in Peterson and Lapua brass. Brass was the odd ducks laying about, a couple were full length sized, a few just neck sized, I ran the rest through a .250 bushing. These were the shoot just to get back to 50 even pieces of both brands.

This is my first try with 75gr vld’s. They barely seat into the neck to stay .010” off the rifling.There was some promise, the Peterson managed a .318” group at 100. Lapua was .423”. Not bad for odd duck brass.

Would I see any benefits turning necks? This is a .255 neck chamber, so no need. But I’m seemingly stuck around the .3-.4 area. Action is bedded and rock solid. I’ve tried different torque on the screws as well, gun doesn’t care. Except for varget, gun doesn’t seem to care what I load either. I haven’t tried any jamming or larger jump yet though, so might be something there as well.

 

[boltfluter]

Seems to me that you have not found the correct powder yet. I personally, would slow down a bit with the changes. Pick a known accurate bullet and run through your powders. When you find the correct one it will be very obvious. In my .22BR's, XBR8208
and AA2015 with a CCI-450 primer were always the ones to beat in my rifles. Bullets into rifling .010 works great for me. If one of these two powders doesn't shoot you have a rifle or shooter problem. Good luck and keep us posted.
Paul