222 shoots

[ArtinNC]

Yours is very nice shooting indeed, Nice Rig man
Is that an XP-100 with a Model 7 bolt?
I have one 222 in Rem 788 that still amazes me how well it shoots
For how old it is, pitted barrel etc
I use 748 powder, shoots good in most any 224 cal
Have you tried 748?
Recently I found 2520 produces 1 hole groups for me with my 22 Br
(.136")
Using 55 gr Nosler Varmint bullets
I do like those 52 Bergers though!
I was using SRB-118 but my cache is almost depleted of a non acquireable powder so had to find another that works the same
You might try AA 2520 also just for comparison since it is close to speed with 748

It is a XP100 and just changed the bolt handle . Can't remember but don't think the 7 was out at that time . This gun was built in 1978 . Yes I have used 748 one of my favorite powders . Right now I'm using PRP bullets , and I don't like Nosler . Going to try AA2460 next .

 

[wildcatter]

Don't ever sell H322 short in the 222 to 222 mags, they all like it. But I think what helped my 22's built on this case is the Bibs 52 grain bullets. Randy makes the most consistent bullets I've shot, or measured! Mine is a little picky on seating depth, but once you find what your chamber and barrel likes,, 5 shots under .2" @ 100 is easy when I do my part. Not just once in a while, as you see by these groups shot the same day, .005" made a difference, and as does .1 or .2 grains in these smaller cases. The rest is up to me to make them go where they are supposed to.

All 5 shot groups. in the little 222 Rem. The .223X35, and 222X35, is a little more forgiving is what I like about it. But these cartridges were made to shoot lights out, all day long.

I've never owned a 221 fireball, but know a couple guys that have them, and seem to follow suite if you like tiny groups. Mike Walker sure had a handle on 22 centerfires that mind!!

 

[ASbobcat]

It is a 223 pushed back . But that OAL is between the 222 and the 223 .

Thanks.

Here's what I designed last year. No custom dies required. Very close to your design.

22 Tactical with long neck and FB for up to 75-80gr bullets.

Run fired 223 cases through die and shoot. Shoulder pushed back to 30deg. No fire-forming. Free LC NATO range brass.

 

[ArtinNC]

Thanks.

Here's what I designed last year. No custom dies required. Very close to your design.

22 Tactical with long neck and FB for up to 75-80gr bullets.

Run fired 223 cases through die and shoot. Shoulder pushed back to 30deg. No fire-forming. Free LC NATO range brass.

With the 30* shoulder the brass don't grow as much . And I like the longer neck .

 

[ASbobcat]

With the 30* shoulder the brass don't grow as much . And I like the longer neck .

That was my main purpose, to slow OAL growth. I HATE trimming. But 30deg still allows .001-.002 growth per cycle. I start with 223 brass that has reached max trim length (1.76).
I wasn't happy with 223AI because you're stuck with a short neck forever.

 

[ArtinNC]

That was my main purpose, to slow OAL growth. I HATE trimming. But 30deg still allows .001-.002 growth per cycle. I start with 223 brass that has reached max trim length (1.76).
I wasn't happy with 223AI because you're stuck with a short neck forever.

Looks like you did good . My std 222 really grows I have to trim about every firing , but my cases only have one firing . Hope that will slow up next firing .

 

[ASbobcat]

Looks like you did good . My std 222 really grows I have to trim about every firing , but my cases only have one firing . Hope that will slow up next firing .

With the original 222 shoulder, I'm afraid you are doomed to a life of trimming.

 

[ArtinNC]

With the original 222 shoulder, I'm afraid you are doomed to a life of trimming.

Two Things I have 600 rounds of never fired brass (( like with all my guns when ever they have sales I buy )) And I do have a long neck chamber , the reamer neck was made .045 longer than it shoild be .

 

[ASbobcat]

Two Things I have 600 rounds of never fired brass (( like with all my guns when ever they have sales I buy )) And I do have a long neck chamber , the reamer neck was made .045 longer than it shoild be .

That's a good thing. You won't have to trim for a long time, and the longer neck will allow you to seat bullets further forward, making room for more powder.

 

[flatlander]

Found this fine little Sako A1 in 222 Rem for sale online recently, with what was obviously a custom stock, even though the salesperson claimed it was a factory stock. It has a custom checkered steel buttplate with wrap-over widow's peak, with screw slots both indexed vertically, plus a matching checkered steel PG cap, screws also indexed parallel to the longitudenal axis (as were the action bolt's slots), and very fine checkering. And being made from what I think it's English walnut, but might be French - I've never seen a factory Sako stock as nice as this one. I think it's a lovely piece of wood, with expertly done inlet.

It was sold with a Leupold M8 4x scope & rings, but I've had a nice old Weaver K6 on my Sako L461 223 since I bought new in 1971, and another nice spare K6 in the closet, so I mounted it in place of the Leupold. Haven't had a chance to shoot it enough to do more than just get the scope zeroed, but am looking forward to some decent weather so I can get out with some handloads in new Hornady brass and find out how it really shoots.