22 br
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Gary -
Howdy !
I have long used 450 ft lb of energy as a guide, for determining at what range a particular bullet might " run out of steam "...
when looking to make clean-kills on " soybeaus digestus " @ distance.
I once asked Steve Hornady about what .224" cal ( Hornady ) bullet I could use, because I wanted to make a clean 500yd groundhog kill.
The 55SX I normally used would have scrubbed-off a lot of vel/energy by then.
I told Steve I was shooting a large-capacity .224 wildcat ( .35 Rem necked-down to .224" cal ) in a 24" 1-14 SS Hart.
Steve informed me of a new 55gr varmint bullet they were developing.... to be called 55 "V"-Max ".
He sent me a handful of their prototypes, that had a longer BT than they finally adopted for production.
Steve also opined that I shouldn't " expect miracles " of a .224" cal 55gr anything @ 500yd.... when the intended target is groundhog.
The available energy they can provide @ that distance, is or has become marginal ( no excess of energy ); in most instances.
Looking @ Hornady's posted ballistics data for .22-250 & .220- Swift ammo loaded w/ their 55"V"-Max; we see the same 432 ft lb
figure quoted for both @ the 500yd distance. What Mr. Hornady said about the .224" cal 55's was consistent w/ the 450ft lb guideline
I suggest.
I made the shot @ 510yd, and must admit the slightly less than ideally-placed shot resulted in a less than optimal " kill "
( no excess energy to aid in terminal effects ). Dead yes, but not decisively.
My point:
I had a .22BR bench gun, and shared its use on groundhogs. The barrel got put onto a M-77, for a hyper-accurate dual role'
rifle. We tried the .22BR after already being exposed to use of my .22-35, several .22-250s; and a .250 Savage.
My friend moved on from the .22BR to use of: first a .220 Swift Savage 112, then a full-custom 6mm Rem on a tuned M-700.
All shooting was either groundhogs, or local paper shoots.
I didn't hold on to the .22BR barrel either, eventually re-barreling my Wichita WBR1375 .22-35 24" SS 1-14 Hart to....
.22-35 chambered in a K & P 28" SS 1-8. After that, a re-barrel chambered in a new 6mm wildcat of my own design
( case capacity in the 6XC - 6 Creedmoor class ).
These days, it's possible to make a whole bunch of various chamberings shoot w/ superb accuracy; rivaling even the .22BR.
With regards,
357Mag
Howdy !
I have long used 450 ft lb of energy as a guide, for determining at what range a particular bullet might " run out of steam "...
when looking to make clean-kills on " soybeaus digestus " @ distance.
I once asked Steve Hornady about what .224" cal ( Hornady ) bullet I could use, because I wanted to make a clean 500yd groundhog kill.
The 55SX I normally used would have scrubbed-off a lot of vel/energy by then.
I told Steve I was shooting a large-capacity .224 wildcat ( .35 Rem necked-down to .224" cal ) in a 24" 1-14 SS Hart.
Steve informed me of a new 55gr varmint bullet they were developing.... to be called 55 "V"-Max ".
He sent me a handful of their prototypes, that had a longer BT than they finally adopted for production.
Steve also opined that I shouldn't " expect miracles " of a .224" cal 55gr anything @ 500yd.... when the intended target is groundhog.
The available energy they can provide @ that distance, is or has become marginal ( no excess of energy ); in most instances.
Looking @ Hornady's posted ballistics data for .22-250 & .220- Swift ammo loaded w/ their 55"V"-Max; we see the same 432 ft lb
figure quoted for both @ the 500yd distance. What Mr. Hornady said about the .224" cal 55's was consistent w/ the 450ft lb guideline
I suggest.
I made the shot @ 510yd, and must admit the slightly less than ideally-placed shot resulted in a less than optimal " kill "
( no excess energy to aid in terminal effects ). Dead yes, but not decisively.
My point:
I had a .22BR bench gun, and shared its use on groundhogs. The barrel got put onto a M-77, for a hyper-accurate dual role'
rifle. We tried the .22BR after already being exposed to use of my .22-35, several .22-250s; and a .250 Savage.
My friend moved on from the .22BR to use of: first a .220 Swift Savage 112, then a full-custom 6mm Rem on a tuned M-700.
All shooting was either groundhogs, or local paper shoots.
I didn't hold on to the .22BR barrel either, eventually re-barreling my Wichita WBR1375 .22-35 24" SS 1-14 Hart to....
.22-35 chambered in a K & P 28" SS 1-8. After that, a re-barrel chambered in a new 6mm wildcat of my own design
( case capacity in the 6XC - 6 Creedmoor class ).
These days, it's possible to make a whole bunch of various chamberings shoot w/ superb accuracy; rivaling even the .22BR.
With regards,
357Mag
JEFFPPC
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I had 2 jugs of 748 and nothing to use it in. I looked through some loading manuals and found that the 22BR with 50-55 gr. bullets worked very efficiently with 748. I have shot 40 thru 55 gr various bullets and they all shoot 1/4 inch groups or less in a Shilen barrled,Savage action in a Baby Tracker. So....give 748 a try. Fill the case up, level it off....NO-NO-NO-but you get the idea.
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