22/250 vs 6BR Norma

[Remfarmer]

Greetings,
I have been away for a while and also from Varmint hunting after losing my hunting pardner and dad. I have a old 22/250 that has had 5000+ rounds through it and though it still shoots fine but I want to re-barrel it and get back into hunting groundhogs.
I am an avid handloader and load all my deer rounds and pistol rounds and wonder if
switching to a 6mmBr Norma might be an viable alternative? I still like bench shooting on occasion but would probably shoot bullet weights under 87gr and more
likely 70 to 75 if using the 6Br. I shoot 55gr 22/250 loaded near max for groundhogs and 52 grain bullets for groups. My trusty Remington 700 will be dressed in a new Bobby Hart Laminated stock and I am l leaning toward a Kreiger barrel. Any thoughts on this move or would I regret this in favor of the 22/250?
Doug

 

[potatoe]

You could split the difference and do a .22BR

 

[bheadboy]

Doug,
i had Bobby Hart rebbl my 40x to 22-250 13 twist Hart 26", ---- you would not believe the 13 twist ( i had to wait for Jerry's break so they would make the special twist)

i get 3740fps out of it with h414 and if you like i will email targets in the .100's with 55 sierra bk. .R/P brass 9 1.2 primers and h414, low pressure and unreal accurcy, ( it will go faster but i did not need it)
i have taken pd at 570yd ranged and longer.

nuff said 22-250

Bob

 

[jonbearman]

I love the 22-250 however mine sit around a bit more with the 6br's I have (they are all single shots) because of the shear accuracy of the round.I dont know what bullets you want to shoot but mine is 1in14 and shoots lights out up to 70 grains and lower.Perfect for varminting out quite aways.

 

[CatShooter]

I shoot both, and there are somethings to consider.

The 6mmBR is famous for not feeding through a magazine. Plus it is not quite the plug n play rig that the 22-250 is, and dies are more expensive.

I would recommend getting a 12" twist barrel in 22-250, and going with what you know.

 

[expiper]

I agree with your Idea to rebarrel and use a Krieger,,,,I have had 22-250's since the 60's and they are terrific,,,however the 6mm Br has proved its self over and over to be more accurate at any range,,especially if u hav an 8 twist bbl,,,you can use bullets from 60 to 105's with great accuracy at all distances,,,,,I also think if you cant get a 6BR to shoot there is something that is wrong with your rifle mechanically or your loads are not tuned,,,I cant get mine to shoot bad!! (I can get ME to shoot bad,,but cant blame it on the gun)....Roger
PS..I have tried to take ctgs with several loadings (3 or more,,not 40-50) and have most split in the shoulder or neck,,,,you will have to be very carefull trying to make 6mm any things outa 22-250's tht have some miles on em,,,even 22-250 AI will split most of em,,,,anealling may help!!???...good luk if you go that way....

 

[Nomad47]

6mmXC. ;D You can even form the cases with your old 22-250 cases.

 

[xswanted]

6 BR....cake to reload for, endless bullet selection and they are great fun to shoot.

I have a 12 twist and its F.U.N!

 

[GrocMax]

A or B = A+B?

6/250. Fixes the mag feed issues. Use existing 22-250 bushing die with slight modification. Plenty velocity with varmint weight slugs. Many brass options.

 

[A_Gamehog]

For varmints, the 22-250 ai with 35 grain lead free bullets from Nosler @ 4760fps. Barrel life is 2500 rds? 1-12 twist
For targets/Varmints, the 6br with 60-75 grain bullets @ 3300fps barrel life is 5000+ rds. 1-12 twist

I have shot both, for shots out past the 300 yards the 6br shines, it's much more accurate and higher BC. For show the 22-250ai can't be beat, flips, splatters, mist.

 

[MarkS]

Remfarmer,

I was a 22-250 fan for groundhog hunting ( still a great round). I build my first 6BR about 20 years ago, and that was it. My first 6BR was a 12tw, it likes 70gr Blitzkings for GH and 68 or 80 gr FB for target shooting. I have added a 8tw barrel now, it like 87gr Vmax for GH and 108gr Berger's for target. You will be amazed at how much harder the 6BR kills than the 22-250, even with the 70gr bullet. The 22-250 is a 450yds to 500 yds gun on GH. I have many 550yds to 650yds one shot kills on GH. A good friend of mind has 750 to 800yds kills. Go 6BR and don't look back.

Mark Schronce

 

[MrMajestic]

6mmXC. ;D You can even form the cases with your old 22-250 cases.

I will second this! Or you could run a 6X47 Lapua if SRP's float your boat!

 

[fdshuster]

Remfarmer/ Doug: If you have 5000+ rounds down a 22-250 barrel and it's still shooting, you have set a world record.

I had 3, 22-250 chamberings: A Remington chrome moly factory, a Hart stainless, and a Shilen stainless and they were all in the scrap bin between 2200 and 2350 rounds fired. As seen with my Hawkeye borescope, severe firecracking in the throat, rifling "gone" for almost 2", very heavy copper fouling, 5 shot groups over M.O.A., and bullets keyholing at 100 yards. I keep a round count on all my chamberings, so know exactly how many rounds have been fired out of each.

Like the 243 Winchester, the 22-250 is one of the examples of a barrel burner.

It would be interesting to borescope your 22-250 barrel.

 

[Nomad47]

Remfarmer,

I was a 22-250 fan for groundhog hunting ( still a great round). I build my first 6BR about 20 years ago, and that was it. My first 6BR was a 12tw, it likes 70gr Blitzkings for GH and 68 or 80 gr FB for target shooting. I have added a 8tw barrel now, it like 87gr Vmax for GH and 108gr Berger's for target. You will be amazed at how much harder the 6BR kills than the 22-250, even with the 70gr bullet. The 22-250 is a 450yds to 500 yds gun on GH. I have many 550yds to 650yds one shot kills on GH. A good friend of mind has 750 to 800yds kills. Go 6BR and don't look back.

Mark Schronce

Mark, I won't deny that the 6BR is a great cartridge, but my 6XCs have 1000 to 1100 yard groundhog kills. I can run hBN 105 Amaxs at 3150 out of a 28" tube. And those 105 amax bullets are nasty on groundhogs.

 

[REastman]

I have used both and the 6 BR is hard to beat.

1-great barrel life
2-great bullet selection
3-lapua brass (maybe this is not a true advantage because Lapua makes 22-250 brass, but I have not had the pleasure of using it)
4-works well with a multitude of powders and primers
5-accurate
6-versatile

But I will admit the 22-250 is just plain fun!

 

[CatShooter]

I have used both and the 6 BR is hard to beat.

1-great barrel life
2-great bullet selection
3-lapua brass (maybe this is not a true advantage because Lapua makes 22-250 brass, but I have not had the pleasure of using it)
4-works well with a multitude of powders and primers
5-accurate
6-versatile

But I will admit the 22-250 is just plain fun!

Other than barrel life, you can say the same thing about both. And I just got in 200 pieces of Lapua 22-250 and it is outstanding.

 

[snowpro440]

Fast is fine but accuracy is final and that's were the 6br will outshine the 22/250, If you can't hit it the speed won't help you. 6BR all the way ....

 

[CatShooter]

Fast is fine but accuracy is final and that's were the 6br will outshine the 22/250, If you can't hit it the speed won't help you. 6BR all the way ....

I get the impression that you have never shot a well made 22-250 and that you have never spent much time shooting woodchucks.

It's not a 100 yard benchrest match with 300 wind flowers covering the field, and unlimited sighters.

In an alfalfa field, at odd ball ranges (a lot more than 200 yds) unknown wind, no wind flags, and no sighters, and most of the time, a second fast follow-up shot is called for. Under these conditions, both calibers are the same.

 

[DogBuster]

S/shot 6BR

 

[bheadboy]

Catshooter is right and snowpro needs to get a well made 22-250, my 40x, hart bbl 13 twist 26"bbl hightech stk, shoots in the .100's

hitting is not just acurcy , it involves wind, distance mirage, ets all without flags and markers for 100-200 etc.
Bob