20cal Barrel Question

[R.Morehouse]

I am getting a barrel for a build and have a Kreiger ordered in a 9 twist 6 grove. I can pick up a Lilja in a 9 twist 3 grove. Is there any difference between the 3 & 6 grove barrels in performance ( generally ). Is there any advantages to more groves? I have a 3 grove Lilja in 300 Lapua that is an amazing rifle that cleans unusually easy......Does the ease of cleaning have anything to do with less groves as well? Please chime in on which barrel you might choose and why.....Thank's....Rick

 

[pacificman]

I have a Pac-Nor 3 groove which is very accurate and cleans easy...I;m sold on the 3 groove barrels. This is right from the Lilja site:

. Almost all of the caliber and twist combinations in the rifle barrels we make are available with 6 lands and grooves. A few years ago we started to make barrels in a 3 groove configuration too at the request of some varmint hunters who were looking for longer barrel life. They were chambering barrels for hot 22 caliber varmint rounds and shooting the throats out of conventional 6 groove barrels fairly fast. We reasoned that if we reduced the number of grooves to 3 but kept the ratio of land to groove width the same (ie. the lands are twice as wide in a 3 groove barrel as compared to a 6 groove) that there would be more land area to resist heat erosion.

Well, it turned out that barrel life did increase and that accuracy stayed at least the equal of comparable 6 groove barrels. It is hard to put a percentage increase on barrel life but a conservative estimate might be 20%.

Benchrest shooters are always experimenting and looking for a competitive edge. Before long a few shooters, including Dan Lilja, were putting 3 groove barrels in 6PPC and 22 Waldog on their light varmint and heavy varmint class benchrest rifles. And these barrels proved to be very accurate. They started winning benchrest matches and soon became popular among the benchrest shooters.

This was with a 6 mm PPC 13" twist 3-Groove Barrel.

And we found that as a side benefit the 3 groove barrels seemed to foul very little and clean up quickly. We attributed this to the reduced number of corners inside collecting powder and copper fouling.

This answer to 3 groove - 6 groove question is not meant to discredit the 6 groove barrels. They have consistently shoot extremely well over the years. Dan continues to shoot both 6 and 3 groove barrels on his benchrest rifles. But if you haven't tried a 3 groove you might consider one the next time you need a barrel. We do not offer them in all of our caliber and twist combinations. Our page with caliber and twist listings indicates if a 3 groove barrel is available. And we are frequently adding 3 groove buttons to our offerings.

 

[R.Morehouse]

Thank you for taking the time. I think I may try the 3 groove for the 20BR and see how it goes....

 

[jonbearman]

I have a 3 groove in a 20 cal chambering and clean up is super easy with almost no copper. It is a super match made by pac-nor.