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.20 Wildcat wonderments

TAJ45

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I've posted this on Saubier but thought I may catch a few extra constructive comments here.

I just read everything in the "17 or 20 BR" thread on Saubier.......I did see a mention of the 47 Lapua necked to 20. This is why I asked for a decent print of the 6.5x47 y'day.

Overall idea is to increase powder capacity in the short,fat 20 BR but not to the extent of a full length 47L or say a 22-250. I guess with my general criteria, a 22-250 case will work as well in the parenting role. Yes, the small primer and Lapua brass will be a nice option for those "needing it".

OK, just a wildcat's newbie ruminations here so don't run me off the board on a rail (I know you guys won't, that's why I'm posting).

Parent case 6.5x47L or 22-250 but push the shoulder back substantially - say .200 or so - maybe more. Looking for another 3-5gr capacity over the 20BR AI.

Shoulder angle? Left up to shooter for his use: less for repeater/feed or more for single loading.

Leave a lot of neck length.....maybe .450" or better. Purpose: to be able to reach lands with ANY pill. Also this theory of the convergence point on the center line being behind the base of the bullet being more accurate and or increasing bbl life? Anything to it? I've thought about the .222 and that is a pretty shallow angle. Of course not much powder being burned either..........maybe just answered my own "hmmm".

For twist, I'm personally leaning toward 11 or maybe 10 hoping to find several someones actually producing some pills in the mid 40s. I thought I wanted to push those 55s FAST but from the thread mentioned above, it may be just one highly probable headache. Maybe the 12-15% redux in wgt and the easier twist would do the trick?

Whatcha guyz think? :D
 
Have you looked at the .20 Titan???

It`s based off of the Grendel case(I think) and I believe it is between the .20BR and .22x47 Lapua.

Might be an easier road to travel?????
 
I had pondered that but when I read it was very, very close to a PPC AI, I felt I wanted more capacity AND the long neck. Ya know, the perfect boat, the perfect car, the perfect truck the perfect 'cat.......uh huh.
 
What about doing a 20 cal based on a dasher case? Im not sure what the net cain in powder capacity would be, might be what you are looking for. Case forming would be more challenging but thats half the fun of wildcatting ;)
 
I had a .20BR 12 twist launching 39 BKings at light speed...WAY cool. 8)

Also WAY overbore,but entirely too fun.

I shudder to think that it is necessary to burn this much powder for this weight bullet.

To do it all over again in .20BR i`d be shooting the 50-55 gr. bullets and having much more fun...

If youre talking 35-40 gr. bullets look at the .20PPC,if a short fat case is a priority, or the .20 Practical/Tactical,.204 Ruger,.20-222 or varient....etc.
 
phil said:
Have you looked at the .20 Titan???

It`s based off of the Grendel case(I think) and I believe it is between the .20BR and .22x47 Lapua.

Might be an easier road to travel?????
It is indeed, as is the 20 Grendel. I do know that the 20 Grendel is a direct neck-down of the 6.5 Grendel case and has a no-turn neck. Case capacity is between the PPC and the BR, so one would be hard pressed to say which has better velocities for the same length of barrel and pressures.

Go to http://shootersnotes.com/articles/20-grendel/ for more info on the 20 Grendel.
 
I agree with what Phil has said. I too had a 20 BR 1-12 twist and it shot 39s like a laser and very accurate. I went back to a 20 VarTarg which is also very accurate to shoot lighter bullets 32-39, and a blast to shoot squirrels with. If I were to go with a bigger case again it would be for the 50-55 grain bullets. Good luck with your project, the 20s are fun, except for loading with fat fingers.
 

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