180 hybrid lot 4858

[Hoekight]

Just bought my first box of 180 Hybrids as I’ve moved from a 6br to a 7 prcw. I decided I’d sort them. Glad I did. I know Berger is the standard in bullets and by no means am I bad mouthing them. But look at the pictures. 30 out of the 500 pack had deformed jackets on the tip. I emailed them pictures and they were awesome and are fixing it. But just Incase you have this same lot, you better check them.

 

[davidjoe]

Load up those 30, and see if you can find a difference on the target. I don’t think you will see that the less perfect looking jackets perform differently because of creases or even seeming signs of brittleness.

I have looked at these bullets under a microscope, as well as others. Despite what they look like, invest in the other components as an experiment and send them down.

While that area pictured might appear to be the origination point of a future jacket failure or a flyer, there are next to no known blow-ups with 180’s even though many of them almost appear to have pleats.

I would not want to look at that getting into deep sea submersible, but jackets I have found only fail by their heat sensitivity, or the core’s, not anything else that is independent of heat, like normal fouling levels, and 180’s are exceptionally heat tolerant.

Try 10 of those 30, against the most ideal looking 10 for group size and post a picture.

 

[Will Henry]

A friend and fellow shooter named Al Mirdoch (this goes back a bit. Maybe 50 years) made McCracken Precision bullets. Bullets which looked like that were culled and Al shot them himself. It was shooting such culled bullets that he shot five into .169" (IIRC) at 200 yds; this with a Remington 700 BDL Varminter! These were 168 grain bullets. He said he never saw any real difference in performance and any fliers were easily explained by a closer look at the wind flags! WH

 

[Dave M.]

Just bought my first box of 180 Hybrids as I’ve moved from a 6br to a 7 prcw. I decided I’d sort them. Glad I did. I know Berger is the standard in bullets and by no means am I bad mouthing them. But look at the pictures. 30 out of the 500 pack had deformed jackets on the tip. I emailed them pictures and they were awesome and are fixing it. But just Incase you have this same lot, you better check them.

I checked my stock of 180 hybrids and lo and behold I had two 500 count, unopened boxes. I decided to open them and look through them.
Box #1 - quickly reviewed all bullets and none showed the strange jacket issues yours did
Box #2 - review all in the box and I found 3 suspect bullets but they didn’t look anywhere near as bad as yours. Appeared to be a slight crack in the jacket near to tip. I asked my girlfriend to pop a few pics and then pitch them in the trash……she threw them out but didn’t capture any photos. But I can assure you they didn’t look anything like your picture above.

Dave

 

[Hoekight]

Load up those 30, and see if you can find a difference on the target. I don’t think you will see that the less perfect looking jackets perform differently because of creases or even seeming signs of brittleness.

I have looked at these bullets under a microscope, as well as others. Despite what they look like, invest in the other components as an experiment and send them down.

While that area pictured might appear to be the origination point of a future jacket failure or a flyer, there are next to no known blow-ups with 180’s even though many of them almost appear to have pleats.

I would not want to look at that getting into deep sea submersible, but jackets I have found only fail by their heat sensitivity, or the core’s, not anything else that is independent of heat, like normal fouling levels, and 180’s are exceptionally heat tolerant.

Try 10 of those 30, against the most ideal looking 10 for group size and post a picture.

I was actually planning on doing that but didn’t even think about posting the results. I will do that test one day early this coming week and post the results here and tag you in it. My only concern is the drastic difference in OAL of the ones with the deformed jackets, they are considerably shorter. But we’ll see.

 

[davidjoe]

I was actually planning on doing that but didn’t even think about posting the results. I will do that test one day early this coming week and post the results here and tag you in it. My only concern is the drastic difference in OAL of the ones with the deformed jackets, they are considerably shorter. But we’ll see.

It’ll be very interesting to load them per usual, without any consideration for their differences, and see what happens.