I understand it doesn't answer your question however FYI, I use N133 in L/C cases with the 20 gr. V-Max. Getting 4050 fps and 1/2 MOA at 200 yards. The 25 gr. V-Max with 1/2 gr. of powder less does 3950 fps with the same accuracy. This is from a 26" 10tw PacNor.uncleduke said:Starting to load for the .17 fireball. Since I have a few # of Lt-32 which seems to be similar in burn rate to H4198 that's where I'll start. Anyone try this combination with 20 grain bullets-?