I have search the forum and connot find much in the way of useres' experience loading these bullets; so i have a direct question. What is the experience with the 115 Bergers in 6BR?
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In a standard 6BR most people I know who've tried them say there's no advantage over the 105s once you figure the 150 fps or so you lose. Also, they have a long bearing surface so that means you need to push out your throat.
In a Dasher or BRX, you've got more capacity, so some guys are using them. Again, however, a Berger or Scenar 105 at 3030 from a Dasher is a proven, winning combo.
I think the 115s work best in a cartridge with the capacity of a 6XC, 6-6.5x47 or larger.
In a Dasher or BRX, you've got more capacity, so some guys are using them. Again, however, a Berger or Scenar 105 at 3030 from a Dasher is a proven, winning combo.
I think the 115s work best in a cartridge with the capacity of a 6XC, 6-6.5x47 or larger.
I shot almost 300 moly-coated Berger 115's over the past two weekends, 70 or so at 600 yards and the rest at 1000 yards. All made it to the target and with scores at or near the top of the list in the Arizona 1000 Yard State Championship as well as a couple of club matches. I shot them in a 6XC chambered Krieger 1:7.5" twist barrel and a fairly stout load. They work very well! Yesterday and today at 1000 yards I scored 199-11X, 193-6X, 199-10X and 200-13X.
German Salazar
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Everyone please notice that German is using the moly coated 115 gr VLD. One of the three greatest contributors to bullet failure is the heat caused by the friction generated when the bullet is moving through the barrel. When the bullet reaches the muzzle the tempurature of the bullet is near the melting point of lead. Once the lead becomes plastic the bullet is a goner. Barrels over 28 inches are capable of developing enough heat through friction to melt the lead core. Moly coating reduces the friction thereby reducing the heat.
Having said all that we do not sell nearly as many 6mm 115 gr VLD as we do the 6mm 105 gr VLD. I suspect it is because of the results many have seen from the conditions described above and because the 115 gr VLD requires a faster twist barrel.
Keep in mind, heat melting the lead core is not the only cause of bullet failures however in this case it can be a primary cause. Those using moly coated bullets or shooting barrels at or less than 28" are reporting that they are happy with the results.
I am not suggesting that everyone switch to 6mm 115 gr VLD Moly. I am just sharing with you what I know to be true. You don't need to slow them down just keep them from heating up.
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Eric Stecker
Having said all that we do not sell nearly as many 6mm 115 gr VLD as we do the 6mm 105 gr VLD. I suspect it is because of the results many have seen from the conditions described above and because the 115 gr VLD requires a faster twist barrel.
Keep in mind, heat melting the lead core is not the only cause of bullet failures however in this case it can be a primary cause. Those using moly coated bullets or shooting barrels at or less than 28" are reporting that they are happy with the results.
I am not suggesting that everyone switch to 6mm 115 gr VLD Moly. I am just sharing with you what I know to be true. You don't need to slow them down just keep them from heating up.
Regards,
Eric Stecker
gentlemen, i apologize for my belated thanks in answering my question, they were very informative as usual on 6BR.
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