I like his content. Majority of the folks on this forum are not the YouTube crowd. I’d say probably more the “international 100 yd benchrest magazine” (if that is a thing), crowd. Age thing ya know.
1,000 yards and 1 Mile with a $813 6.5cm rifle videos
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Pyscodog
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I don't think some re giving him the credit he deserves. I watched two videos sponsored by him and Ziess optics. Probably 10 shooters with some very high dollar equipment and only one hit the target at a mile twice out of 5 shots. One other shooter hit it once, the rest all miss's. Taking a low dollar rifle and factory ammo and assembling it on the bed of his truck was entertaining. But the man knows his equipment and how to use it. If nothing else, he showed how to sight a rifle in in three shots. I've seen guys at the club go through a box of ammo and still not be zeroed.
I think it's interesting but I question the relevance of the process. In my opinion shooting hunting rifles should validate the systems accuracy within the lethality of the cartridge.
As someone that occasionally shoots a "hunting rifle" (Savage 10 heavy barrel) for local F-class competitions, I can relate to his wanting to share the experience with others.
I'm unlikely to win with that rifle, but I'm almost guaranteed to have a fun day. It's not always about winning.
We're always trying to grow the sport at our club. If encouraging someone to give it a spin at a practice session with their entry-level rifle is a way for them to get their feet wet, I'll do that all day long.
If they enjoy their experience and want to venture a little further down the long-range rabbit hole towards better gear and a more competitive approach , that's a win. Even if they decide the entry level is where they want to play, that's a win too.
It's how I got started, and I'm grateful to the folks that encouraged me to give it a go.
I haven't watched the 2 videos yet, maybe later today.
As for taking a bunch of shots to get the job done, Erik Cortina's 1000 yd blackjack finale is a good example of that. Of 240 shots fired, there were 3 hits on a 2 inch plate. Granted, some of those shots weren't aimed at that plate, but many were. It's simply not an easy thing to do, even with high-end gear.
Listening to the spotters was in itself an experience. Telling a shooter to hold 2 inches left or right at 1000 yds if they've missed by that margin on both sides already?
The more realistic advice was after a near miss, "Shoot again, same hold". To me, this means that the spotter understands that a near miss on a 2 inch target at 1000 yards is an excellent shot and the shooter is already dialed in well within the capabilities of the rifle and ammunition.
The guy with the 22 Dasher impressed the heck out of me. 85.5 grain bullet at 1000 yards, and he got one of the teams 80% of the way through the KYL rack on his first go-round. That's some very good shooting indeed.
I'm unlikely to win with that rifle, but I'm almost guaranteed to have a fun day. It's not always about winning.
We're always trying to grow the sport at our club. If encouraging someone to give it a spin at a practice session with their entry-level rifle is a way for them to get their feet wet, I'll do that all day long.
If they enjoy their experience and want to venture a little further down the long-range rabbit hole towards better gear and a more competitive approach , that's a win. Even if they decide the entry level is where they want to play, that's a win too.
It's how I got started, and I'm grateful to the folks that encouraged me to give it a go.
I haven't watched the 2 videos yet, maybe later today.
As for taking a bunch of shots to get the job done, Erik Cortina's 1000 yd blackjack finale is a good example of that. Of 240 shots fired, there were 3 hits on a 2 inch plate. Granted, some of those shots weren't aimed at that plate, but many were. It's simply not an easy thing to do, even with high-end gear.
Listening to the spotters was in itself an experience. Telling a shooter to hold 2 inches left or right at 1000 yds if they've missed by that margin on both sides already?
The more realistic advice was after a near miss, "Shoot again, same hold". To me, this means that the spotter understands that a near miss on a 2 inch target at 1000 yards is an excellent shot and the shooter is already dialed in well within the capabilities of the rifle and ammunition.
The guy with the 22 Dasher impressed the heck out of me. 85.5 grain bullet at 1000 yards, and he got one of the teams 80% of the way through the KYL rack on his first go-round. That's some very good shooting indeed.
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bluealtered
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It is very clear that he is a very good shot. Letting a young lady with very little shooting time do it makes the whole point of the first video, "yes the average" shooter with a little help can do these things.
To me, this shows all of us here that if we help those starting out, that there's no telling what they may be able to do not only in the shooting sports, but in life as well. To me, this will always be a win-win situation. That to me is part of why we do this in the first place, to have fun and to help each other.
To me, this shows all of us here that if we help those starting out, that there's no telling what they may be able to do not only in the shooting sports, but in life as well. To me, this will always be a win-win situation. That to me is part of why we do this in the first place, to have fun and to help each other.
nakneker
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I’ve watched a few of his videos over the years. I think he does a good job for the most part sharing what he knows. Most of us here have much more experience than the average shooter and he fills niche for those who are curious about the sport. I think he’s had a positive impact on the sport/hobby we all enjoy so much.
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He makes the point that one can get some shooting satisfaction without breaking the bank, and that's a good thing. WH
He makes valid points that you can shoot at long range with inexpensive equipment. I didn't hear anything about being competitive. It's pretty incredible that we have access to off the shelf components these days that can accomplish that but there remains the major part of the equation; the driver. You still have to do your work.
I agree.....I seriously doubt big game or a bad guy is going to hang around for the 29th shot.
Stay safe.
29 shots are all the shots through the rifle from new, including zeroing it at 100 yards sand checking his dope as he worked out to a mile.
One thing I've never seen is a steel plate or paper target run away, they've always cooperated and stood right where I placed them.
yeah....they stay still because they're afraid they might get hit if they move!!
Anything that gives encouragement to new shooters is a good thing. If we don't encourage new people there will be no sport. I'm one of the "young" ones and I'm over 50! Many look at all this high end, very expensive gear and decide it's not for them when they should be encouraged to start with something more modest and trade up as their skills improve.
I'm all for encouragement,but I'm more in favor of being realistic and honest. A shooter will never be able to develope his personal skills to shoot 1/2MOA with equipment only capabale of 1MOA. This shooter leads viewers to believe you can go buy the cheapest thing you can find and then go out and shoot long range and even extreme long range....no mention of working up to those levels of skill.....all with off the shelf components. This is a sure way to lead to disappointment.
Good luck and stay safe.
Giving that scope he beat with his Cresent wrench to a new shooter would have been a great start.
I won't even comment on his commentary in the parking lot.
Once again my thoughts on watching these has been confirmed.Giving that scope he beat with his Cresent wrench to a new shooter would have been a great start.
I won't even comment on his commentary in the parking lot.
jds holler
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You old fogeys are gonna have to realize that us younger kids watch and enjoy our YouTube vids. Y'all oughta try to stay a little hip and groovy. How else are ya gonna find the most modern music. I just found a new group called Grand Funk. Pretty cutting edge stuff. jd
Try Gordon Lightfoot
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