What's stupid is that lil tab that inadvertently gets pushed up so the damn tray gets stuck.
Annoying!!
Federal Primer Boxes
- Thread starter jds holler
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Annoying!!
No big deal, sometimes venting helps calms the spirit.
I'd take a Chinese cigar if I could use it as a primer and cost less.
Murray Brook
Silver $$ Contributor
I don't really mind the Federal boxes other than the fact that they take up so much more room on the shelf. Where you can store 1000 Fed's you could put over 2000 CCI's.
I have severe groundhog fever and it gets worse at the winter wears on! The only known cure is getting out in the hay fields once the weather permits.
Is that true? I know the ownership is the same. I hope the manufacturing is separate. That's too many eggs in one basket.
I started walking down the stairs one time and I dropped a box of primers and it hit my foot perfectly so it could tumble and bounce off the other steps at a high rate of speed and slam into the wall at the bottom. I was glad they were Fed LPM. lolI'll take all the "stupid" boxes of Federal 205M primers you don't want.
Have we really gotten to the place where we are complaining about the manufacturer's packaging of reloading components?
Geronimo Jim
Gold $$ Contributor
Federal are the softest primers on the market. Know this by shooting millions (joke) of
rounds in double action revolvers. Was told this was the reason.
rounds in double action revolvers. Was told this was the reason.
This is the answer. I, too, remember the incident. I was shooting PPC at the time and we couldn't Federal SP primers for over a year.
I doubt any of us prefer Federal boxes. This is a dictionary example of a "first world problem"
There is a lot of guessing and speculation here but not much factual reporting. Boyd actually talked to a Federal employee but I do not think the answer he got was the real cause of the original problem which maybe predated the employees experience with the company. Mass detonation of a pallet of primers by a forklift would have been a significant explosive event.
The failure of the original Federal primer packaging to meet government shipping requirements for explosives goes back a long way to the 1980s(?) and was reported in the gun magazines such as "Handloader" at the time. That failure is what led to the redesign of the Federal primer package to a package which could pass the government shipping test for an explosive.
Primers are an explosive and require careful handling and should remain in the original packaging until used. Once they are removed for reloading, they should be handled with safe procedures that respect their explosive potential. There have been some significant events reported when improper primer handling caused explosions. We do not hear much about this safety hazard today, but it may be worth educating new handloaders to the hazards and the proper storing and handling of primers.
The failure of the original Federal primer packaging to meet government shipping requirements for explosives goes back a long way to the 1980s(?) and was reported in the gun magazines such as "Handloader" at the time. That failure is what led to the redesign of the Federal primer package to a package which could pass the government shipping test for an explosive.
Primers are an explosive and require careful handling and should remain in the original packaging until used. Once they are removed for reloading, they should be handled with safe procedures that respect their explosive potential. There have been some significant events reported when improper primer handling caused explosions. We do not hear much about this safety hazard today, but it may be worth educating new handloaders to the hazards and the proper storing and handling of primers.
N0 guessing, the incident happened on the east coast, I think Delaware or Massachusetts but not too sure.
It was in the news in Canada, at least where I lived, and in some industry publications.
cp generation
Silver $$ Contributor
Federal did that as an IQ test !!!! guess what I failed it...
My plan was to call CCI in Livingston, last I spoke with them concerning Federal difference between 205M, and 205M AR the fella on the other end answered CCI Federal. When I stated I had a primer question, he replied "your not 1 of those guys that weight primers are you?"
So far with mighty Google Foo I found out cci was making shotgun primer for Federal. Federal's ammo plant is in Minnesota, so the question remains...
Does Federal make thier own primer.
About 10 pages back there's thread @Dave Way stared on winter projects or something...
Dave's picture of a Federal primer sort is no longer visible but Mark's CCI is, my immediate observation was that the mean curve of both sorts were the same...
I'll get back to this tomorrow
I tend to push away from Fed primers when working up a load too. The box, the softness, and actual performance in most cases make me reach for the CCI first. However, sometimes just have to bite the bullet and try them in certain loads.
Murray Brook
Silver $$ Contributor
I tend to think along the same lines as you do, only in my 30/378 Weatherby the only primer I used that gave me good ignition was the Fed 215 and in my PPC the Fed 205 just seems to work good with most loads.
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