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What `s up with the Marine Corps?

outasite`08

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Just read an article in the NY Post. It seems the Corp decided to disband the Scout Sniper Platoons. I won`t go into all the excuses for doing this, but the changes taking place in the services are troubling. Hell the Corp is changing the greeting from Maam and Sir to something else. To much of this woke crap going on. I suppose in the future the Marines with have to ask permission to shoot the enemy from them. Bad,bad bad. Jeff
 
I read that too and wondered WTF?
Seems all the lessons learned in combat in WWII, Vietnam and the sandbox have already been forgotten.

I fear the libtard woke ideology has now taken over our military. And with the current world situation, I'm getting a bit nervous. Being schooled on pronouns instead of combat tactics can only lead to one outcome.

Do we EVER need a real leader at this juncture. But what we have is......well, we all know what we've got.
 
I think it is called weakening the country, to the point we must surrender. Ship endless supply of arms,money to most corrupt country in the world, cut oil reserves. Restrict food and energy production. Force 3 countries with nuc (4th soon that hate us) together. I fully expect PRIDE and EQUITY to keep us safe, do you?
 

From the MarineCorps Times:

Marines remove scout sniper platoons from infantry battalions​

By Irene Loewenson
Tuesday, Feb 28

DWEIYYFE6RBUTPYG3GNOZHO2DQ.jpg
Marine scout snipers conduct long-range live-fire training at Camp Fuji, Japan, in March 2022. (Lance Cpl. Manuel Alvarado/Marine Corps)
The Marine Corps is scrapping its scout sniper program and will soon house its snipers under reconnaissance, rather than infantry, battalions.
Instead of scout sniper platoons, infantry battalions will have scout platoons, an message sent to the fleet from the Corps’ Plans, Policies and Operations department on Tuesday said. The message called for the transition to happen immediately.

The message, first reported by Coffee or Die Magazine, said that scout sniper platoons didn’t provide battalion commanders with sufficient “continuous all-weather information gathering.”
The scout platoons are meant to “provide the commander with relevant, reliable, accurate and prompt information,” the message said.
“The shift to a Scout Platoon will allow those Marines to focus their training and evaluations on scouting, providing commanders the right tools to accomplish their mission,” Marine spokesman Capt. Ryan Bruce said in a statement to Marine Corps Times.

RELATED​


By Sarah Sicard
Bruce noted that infantry Marines will still have access to precision rifles as necessary.
The Marine Corps didn’t immediately respond to a Marine Corps Times request for information about what roles scout snipers will have and where they will be placed after the platoons disband.
Scout snipers have been part of the Marine Corps since World War II. They are trained not only in marksmanship but also in scouting, or reconnaissance.
They aren’t the only snipers in the Marine Corps; some reconnaissance Marines and Marine special operators are also trained as snipers.

The president of the USMC Scout Sniper Association wrote in a message to the association that he urged Berger to “reconsider this ill-advised policy decision.”
“It’s unlikely that any officer who commanded and employed Scout Snipers in combat agrees that removing a sniper capability from the infantry battalion makes sense,” retired Master Sgt. Tim Parkhurst wrote in the message.
Marine Commandant Gen. David Berger ordered the transition, according to the message. The move comes as part of Force Design 2030, the Marine Corps’ overhaul that called for a reorganization of infantry battalions and a doubling down on reconnaissance.
Separating the sniper role from infantry battalions is one aspect of the Force Design 2030 plan, which seeks to “divest the preponderance of weapon-specific military occupational specialties in the infantry battalions and build highly trained Marines who are capable of employing a range of weapons and equipment,” according to Bruce.

Scout platoons will be made up of 26 Marines: four teams of six infantry Marines, with a first lieutenant and a gunnery sergeant in charge. That’s larger than scout sniper platoons, which typically have 18 Marines.
The Marine Corps didn’t immediately provide the number of scout snipers currently serving.
In 2018, a Marine spokeswoman estimated the number at around 300. Thanks to shortfalls in the number of snipers, scout sniper platoons have in recent years consisted of lots of marksmen who undergo on-the-job training with help from fully trained scout snipers.
After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated.
Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines.
 
I think it is called weakening the country, to the point we must surrender. Ship endless supply of arms,money to most corrupt country in the world, cut oil reserves. Restrict food and energy production. Force 3 countries with nuc (4th soon that hate us) together. I fully expect PRIDE and EQUITY to keep us safe, do you?
Another $400 million announced yesterday. And we can`t clean up a small town in Ohio. Jeff
 

From the MarineCorps Times:​

Marines remove scout sniper platoons from infantry battalions​

By Irene Loewenson
Tuesday, Feb 28

DWEIYYFE6RBUTPYG3GNOZHO2DQ.jpg
Marine scout snipers conduct long-range live-fire training at Camp Fuji, Japan, in March 2022. (Lance Cpl. Manuel Alvarado/Marine Corps)
The Marine Corps is scrapping its scout sniper program and will soon house its snipers under reconnaissance, rather than infantry, battalions.
Instead of scout sniper platoons, infantry battalions will have scout platoons, an message sent to the fleet from the Corps’ Plans, Policies and Operations department on Tuesday said. The message called for the transition to happen immediately.

The message, first reported by Coffee or Die Magazine, said that scout sniper platoons didn’t provide battalion commanders with sufficient “continuous all-weather information gathering.”
The scout platoons are meant to “provide the commander with relevant, reliable, accurate and prompt information,” the message said.
“The shift to a Scout Platoon will allow those Marines to focus their training and evaluations on scouting, providing commanders the right tools to accomplish their mission,” Marine spokesman Capt. Ryan Bruce said in a statement to Marine Corps Times.

RELATED​


By Sarah Sicard
Bruce noted that infantry Marines will still have access to precision rifles as necessary.
The Marine Corps didn’t immediately respond to a Marine Corps Times request for information about what roles scout snipers will have and where they will be placed after the platoons disband.
Scout snipers have been part of the Marine Corps since World War II. They are trained not only in marksmanship but also in scouting, or reconnaissance.
They aren’t the only snipers in the Marine Corps; some reconnaissance Marines and Marine special operators are also trained as snipers.

The president of the USMC Scout Sniper Association wrote in a message to the association that he urged Berger to “reconsider this ill-advised policy decision.”
“It’s unlikely that any officer who commanded and employed Scout Snipers in combat agrees that removing a sniper capability from the infantry battalion makes sense,” retired Master Sgt. Tim Parkhurst wrote in the message.
Marine Commandant Gen. David Berger ordered the transition, according to the message. The move comes as part of Force Design 2030, the Marine Corps’ overhaul that called for a reorganization of infantry battalions and a doubling down on reconnaissance.
Separating the sniper role from infantry battalions is one aspect of the Force Design 2030 plan, which seeks to “divest the preponderance of weapon-specific military occupational specialties in the infantry battalions and build highly trained Marines who are capable of employing a range of weapons and equipment,” according to Bruce.

Scout platoons will be made up of 26 Marines: four teams of six infantry Marines, with a first lieutenant and a gunnery sergeant in charge. That’s larger than scout sniper platoons, which typically have 18 Marines.
The Marine Corps didn’t immediately provide the number of scout snipers currently serving.
In 2018, a Marine spokeswoman estimated the number at around 300. Thanks to shortfalls in the number of snipers, scout sniper platoons have in recent years consisted of lots of marksmen who undergo on-the-job training with help from fully trained scout snipers.
After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated.
Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines.
The first part of your article was what the NY Post reported. The underlying problem is the term" Sniper" that I believe and others I `ve spoken to isn`t welcome in the new "woke" military. I believe the Navy and Army will follow soon. I hope I am wrong. Jeff
 
I read that too and wondered WTF?
Seems all the lessons learned in combat in WWII, Vietnam and the sandbox have already been forgotten.

I fear the libtard woke ideology has now taken over our military. And with the current world situation, I'm getting a bit nervous. Being schooled on pronouns instead of combat tactics can only lead to one outcome.

Do we EVER need a real leader at this juncture. But what we have is......well, we all know what we've got.
A POS
 
Just read an article in the NY Post. It seems the Corp decided to disband the Scout Sniper Platoons. I won`t go into all the excuses for doing this, but the changes taking place in the services are troubling. Hell the Corp is changing the greeting from Maam and Sir to something else. To much of this woke crap going on. I suppose in the future the Marines with have to ask permission to shoot the enemy from them. Bad,bad bad. Jeff
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It will make your knees weak to know the crap that is going on. It is no longer my Marine Corps of 68-72.

Imagine battery powered tanks, personnel carriers and self propelled artillery. Get ready for it. It is on the drawing boards and contracts are being let.
 
I tried to make a funny joke with my previous comment, but I cannot laugh, this is some seriously disgraceful disrespectful depressing disappointing BS. I'm former infantry Army and the Corp is the last place I would expect this shit to be happening. Recruitment is down on all branches and if it weren't for the trannies they probably wouldn't have a need for boot camp, or is that dress camp!
 
I tried to make a funny joke with my previous comment, but I cannot laugh, this is some seriously disgraceful disrespectful depressing disappointing BS. I'm former infantry Army and the Corp is the last place I would expect this shit to be happening. Recruitment is down on all branches and if it weren't for the trannies they probably wouldn't have a need for boot camp, or is that dress camp!
They said on the news yesterday recruitment is down because they cant pass the physical to even be considered
 
Well......I guess all the physical standards for military, fire, and police are about to get another round of lower performance standards. First it was because women couldn't pass the men's standards, and now it will be because all the wimps can't pass anyone's standards.
 

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