.284 & 180ELD's

[Liven The Dream]

Anyone shot these in a .284 Target Rifle ?

If so Seating in, on or Jump at what ?

Thanks up Front,
Don

 

[David Brooks Rifle Stocks]

Havent shot them in my 284, but every other ELD i have shot in 3 different calibers and about 6 different guns liked about .018-.023 off touching.

 

[No i deer]

I shoot them in my 26 inch 284 and they shoot very very well just touching..
1 too 2 thousandths in..
Sorted in 0.2gr increments as there is some variations..
No point sorting the oal's as there basically all the same length..
I did not long back use up the last of the B to O lot that was weight sorted aswell..
I'll be very surprised if you don't find them very accurate.
I found they liked the same seating in my saum too but push them fast and they will/can blow up..
I run them at 2800fps ish on 54grs of N160 in my 284 and I've had no blow ups.
Hope this helps

 

[Liven The Dream]

I shoot them in my 26 inch 284 and they shoot very very well just touching..
1 too 2 thousandths in..
Sorted in 0.2gr increments as there is some variations..
No point sorting the oal's as there basically all the same length..
I did not long back use up the last of the B to O lot that was weight sorted aswell..
I'll be very surprised if you don't find them very accurate.
I found they liked that in my saum too but push them fast and they will/can blow up..
I run them at 2800fps ish on 54grs of N160

Thanks ,
Run my 180 HB at 2768 AV and shoot VG.
I had these on Back Order for 11 months ?

 

[No i deer]

I'd be interested too see if the friction from your 30/32 barrels causes the blow up..
Alot of your f open shooters have tried them and had them blow up..
Plenty of info on accurate shooter about them blowing up

 

[FeMan]

I shot them for a while at around 20k off. They shot extremely well for me and I shot my first clean 1k target with them. However, as soon as I started getting alligator hide in the barrel, they started blowing up on me. I know others have had the same issues. Another thing is they would not stabilize in a 1:9 for me at sea level. The 1:8.5 did the trick but the higher rpms also stressed the jackets more.

I have 900 from the same lot of 180 ELDMs I'll make you a deal on if you want them.

 

[Liven The Dream]

I shot them for a while at around 20k off. They shot extremely well for me and I shot my first clean 1k target with them. However, as soon as I started getting alligator hide in the barrel, they started blowing up on me. I know others have had the same issues. Another thing is they would not stabilize in a 1:9 for me at sea level. The 1:8.5 did the trick but the higher rpms also stressed the jackets more.

I have 900 from the same lot of 180 ELDMs I'll make you a deal on if you want them.

Keep you offer in mind.
To cold for testing come Spring will test.

 

[Liven The Dream]

I will test them come warmer weather !
Stay Tuned

 

[No i deer]

My 284 has done 2350 shots..
1500 probaly fired in my 1000yds snapshooting COF's..
The rest hunting,plinking and testing..!!
It's been a great barrel (Bartlein)
Mine is a 1 in 9 throated for 180gr hybrids.
I was arranging too get a new barrel put on back in January and I equalled then beat my PB in the same morning so I put it off..
A few Sundays ago I was 2 points shy of my PB.
Using it this Sunday at 600yds..
Got another year out of it lol..
I'll look into a new barrel in the new year now.

 

[Liven The Dream]

My 284 has done 2350 shots..
1500 probaly fired in my 1000yds snapshooting COF's..
The rest hunting,plinking and testing..!!
It's been a great barrel (Bartlein)
Mine is a 1 in 9 throated for 180gr hybrids.
I was arranging too get a new barrel put on back in January and I equalled then beat my PB in the same morning so I put it off..
A few Sundays ago I was 2 points shy of my PB.
Using it this Sunday at 600yds..
Got another year out of it lol..
I'll look into a new barrel in the new year now.

Order now ! Lists are long on wait time ?

 

[No i deer]

It's a bartlein sako varmint profile I think..
My Smith had 2 in at the time in the same profile in a 1 in 8.25 twist..
He said he doesn't do many that profile..
Will he still have one..?
Hopefully..!!
It's lasted me 4 too 5 years

 

[Liven The Dream]

It's a bartlein sako varmint profile I think..
My Smith had 2 in at the time in the same profile in a 1 in 8.25 twist..
He said he doesn't do many that profile..
Will he still have one..?
Hopefully..!!
It's lasted me 4 too 5 years

Your lucky 4-5
I am Running 1 1/2 years a Barrel F/Class ?

 

[davidjoe]

I used to shoot them in a .284 and a saum. The .284’s never blew one up. The saums sure did. With the bullet blight in full effect, I’d have zero reservations about loading them for 600 yards. I’ve seen them stay in the X ring for a guy’s entire match at 600, surprising the excellent shooter who did it.

At 1,000, they aren’t the strongest choice. I do not have any explanation for why their performance seemed great at 600, but underwhelming at 1,000, but it’s been a while since I used them.

 

[std7mag]

I used to shoot them in a .284 and a saum. The .284’s never blew one up. The saums sure did. With the bullet blight in full effect, I’d have zero reservations about loading them for 600 yards. I’ve seen them stay in the X ring for a guy’s entire match at 600, surprising the excellent shooter who did it.

At 1,000, they aren’t the strongest choice. I do not have any explanation for why their performance seemed great at 600, but underwhelming at 1,000, but it’s been a while since I used them.

Maybe the plastic tip was melting.

I've run the 150 & 162gr in numerous 7mm rifles. They seem to like a jump between 0.030-0.040" for me.

 

[davidjoe]

Maybe the plastic tip was melting.

I've run the 150 & 162gr in numerous 7mm rifles. They seem to like a jump between 0.030-0.040" for me.

I have bitten pretty hard on the allure or lure of the unmeltable aluminum tipped bullets, but more for their claimed BC. I keep buying more, so at a gut level, I cannot deny a perceived advantage, but I have wondered though why my agg’s aren’t markedly improved with them, relative to their competitors’ bullets, as others noted, in most matches, and a very astute individual mentioned to me that it may have to do with their center of pressure. It was a passing suggestion to look into without further elaboration.

 

[No i deer]

I've shot the 190gr Atips at 1100yds and 1200yds in my saum at a gbfca match and asked what windage others used and there was definitely a wind saving but it wasn't much..
I think it was over 0.5 mins at 1200yds.
My saum isn't pushing them fast and maybe a 1 in 8 twist may have span them a bit more of a wind saving..
1 in 8.25 shows a 2% loss in bc on bergers twist rate calculator.
Not sure how much that would help..

 

[No i deer]

I think I started using the 180gr ELDM's in my 284 at about 1500 firings.

 

[std7mag]

I have bitten pretty hard on the allure or lure of the unmeltable aluminum tipped bullets, but more for their claimed BC. I keep buying more, so at a gut level, I cannot deny a perceived advantage, but I have wondered though why my agg’s aren’t markedly improved with them, relative to their competitors’ bullets, as others noted, in most matches, and a very astute individual mentioned to me that it may have to do with their center of pressure. It was a passing suggestion to look into without further elaboration.

I was teasing about the tips melting. Especially after Hornady did that whole marketing campaign on switching to different tips for their ELD line.

You might be onto something with the center of pressure idea.

Without a lot of speciallized equipment and knowing the math, i'm not quite sure how you could verify this.

 

[No i deer]

I used to shoot them in a .284 and a saum. The .284’s never blew one up. The saums sure did. With the bullet blight in full effect, I’d have zero reservations about loading them for 600 yards. I’ve seen them stay in the X ring for a guy’s entire match at 600, surprising the excellent shooter who did it.

At 1,000, they aren’t the strongest choice. I do not have any explanation for why their performance seemed great at 600, but underwhelming at 1,000, but it’s been a while since I used them.

I had 2 not make the 300yds f class target

 

[No i deer]

Hi Don..
I spoke too soon..
I had 3 shots didn't make the target at 600yds snaps..
Approx 2770fps as it was a cold morning..
Prone I put 15 out of my 20 shots inside the 6 inch vbull.. 2 a bit further out and 3 missing..
The backer is about 6f square so I do believe I didn't miss the whole thing 3 times lol..
4 x fig12a's on the backer with 6 inches in between them and 6 inches clear each end..
Shot count now is 2370..
Its a shame as the gun is still hammering.
Time for the new barrel