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Range Safety Officer Certification

I have tried to get my club to do it and finally gave up... Spend money on everything else to keep a tiny minority of the members happy and yet nothing that matters...
 
I have tried to get my club to do it and finally gave up... Spend money on everything else to keep a tiny minority of the members happy and yet nothing that matters...
Im right there with you. I was hoping when this thread was started it would pick up some steam. Curious to know how it is at other ranges.
 
The range we hold our matches at is a county facility. They require all match directors and assistants running matches to be RSOs and have their certifications on file with them.
 
I am going to state why I wish my two ranges had an rso. Please forgive me if I ramble or sound pissy.

My biggest pet peeves at the range are
People that will fiddle with their firearm when the range is cold. That includes messing around at a bench, and bringing or removing a firearm to and from the firing line. I have gotten into some pretty heated discussions over it.

People that will sweep the entire firing line. I am very careful to NEVER point my firearm in someone elses direction wether loaded or not. That keeps me from injuring someone and gives them the peace of mind they deserve while shooting.

Now this one occurs mosly on pistol range. A table full of pistols with one or more pointed up and down the firing line. I got into a huge argument over this one years ago with a guy. I politely said something and he really blew up on me. I couldnt believe it. I seen him around town some time after that dressed in a policeman uniform and thought to myself " he is an even bigger jackass than I thought".

Not clearing your firearm before rang is officially cold and people are down range.

I hate to sound like an ass but following the safety rules isnt too much to ask. Respect the people next to you.
When I joined my first club years ago I was really nervous about shooting around groups of people. Especially ones I didnt know. I didnt want to look like a noob or an ass and I followed and still follow the rules to the letter. Luckily I met and got in with a group of older gentleman that kind of took me in and showed me the ropes. One of them was a guy by the name Bob Jourdan. Some of you guys around here might have known and remember him.
Anyways, I have rambled and ranted long enough.

I'm Spoonbill Potterfield and thats how it is
 
Our range requires that one be NRA certified AND do 8 hours of RSO duty under the guidance of a RSO who has attended our club’s RSO program; this course/program must be renewed every year as it pertains to safety issues and changes to our club’s SOPs particular to our range.

While this sounds excessive, we are a private club that places safety above all else. The refresher course we take every year is 2-4 hours long and allows RSOs the opportunity to voice concerns and find solutions to situations that occur on their watch as well others. It’s a very safe range and the chief RSO always backs the duty RSO whenever an immediate decision needs to be made. RSOs make mistakes and errors in judgement can happen but you don’t argue with the RSO; do as he requests and voice your grievance later…sort it out then.

Shooting on our range also requires that a RSO be present whenever there is live fire. Also, RSOs are not allowed to shoot unless there is a second RSO present as there has to be a RSO watching the line at all times when there is live fire.
 
NRA RSO certification. Pretty easy to pass. Mine's been expired for 15 years but it was a good thing to do before just walking the line with the orange vest on. There are standards for a reason. Most ranges I've ever been a member at offered to pay for the cost of a volunteer RSO to take the certification but none ever used paid RSO's so I don't know what they might do in that case.
 
I was asked to become an RSO, and I actually began the process. I showed up on a Thursday, signed in, grabbed my cup-a-joe, and listened to the instructor begin his introductions. The sign-in sheet was passed around - and that is where the process stopped....

-NRA member number-

"Sorry, not in the NRA".
- "It's really easy to join! Just call this number and have your card ready."
"Is WLP still at the helm?"
- "Yes"
"Thanks for offering the course and being here today. Laters"
 
Just because someone has passed an NRA RSO certification, doesn't mean that individual has the will or ability to keep things in order on the firing line.

Of course not. A driver's license doesn't ensure that someone will obey the rules of the road, either.

It does show that they've been exposed to the trainer's idea of "best practices" though, which is a lot more than handing someone an orange vest and telling them to watch the line.
 
I enjoy shooting and approach it with caution and pride. I want to shoot without undue interference, but I also don't want to get shot. I am an RSO and appreciate the balance between promoting a friendly environment for the members, but also that Safety is paramount. The unfortunate actions by a member can result in major issues for the club as a whole. Yeah... so I guess Safety is an important topic that often gets swept to the side when it is inconvenient, and is just as likely to be taken for granted by an experienced shooter as an inexperienced shooters.

Our club requires that any member interested in volunteering as an RSO must take the NRA's RSO Certification through a certified NRA instructor, which the club hosts 1 or 2 classes a year. The Club pays the RSO's initial registration fee, and if RSO serves four shifts (20 hours total) during the year then RSO receive a $100 reduction on next year's annual membership fee. RSO is required to keep their RSO Certification current with NRA ($35/year).

Unfortunately, both our BOD Members and our competitive shooters can't be bothered to participate and serve as an RSO. These are exactly the key participant who should serve as RSO's to help mentor new members, keep in touch with general membership, and promote/reinforce a Safety Culture for the club. The vast majority of our RSO's are retirees who signed up to get the annual membership discount, open access to range when closed to general membership, and also just need something to do with their free time. I have heard RSO's express discomfort/unwillingness to engage a shooter if it may result in any form of inter-personal conflict. They mean well, but this is the wrong mindset for effectively performing this role, especially with the number of new and inexperienced shooters that are joining our club in recent years.

A few of us have tried to also get the club to recognize RSO Certification from other recognized shooting organizations, such as IDPA or USPSA. I have been certified by both NRA and IDPA, and based on my experience I can tell you that the RSO Certification from a Dynamic Shooting Sport is much more meaningful and relevant than NRA paper. RSO for IDPA/USPSA/3Gun provide better hands on training and preparation for dealing directly with safety issues, including anticipating issues (what could go wrong), dealing with loaded firearms, and bad attitudes (de-escalating). It requires RSO to engage directly with shooters, and teaches a more intense, focus on safety as RSO is constantly engaging with participants who are using loaded weapons. RSO learns not to take anything for granted and active Safety Mindset to treat all guns as always loaded, expect shooters to turn around and point loaded guns in wrong direction, clearing weapon malfunctions on different firearm platforms, etc.

The other training consideration that a shooting club should consider providing to its RSO's is a gunshot trauma course. RSO is person most likely to be point person in case of an emergency. There is a reason I have a field medical kit that includes as least 2 tourniquets... 1st one is reserved for me.

LOL - I am chuckling at the "short response" that I had intended to type.... turned into a Safety Manifesto!!! Try asking me about something that I am passionate about! LMAO
 
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I am going to state why I wish my two ranges had an rso. Please forgive me if I ramble or sound pissy.

My biggest pet peeves at the range are
People that will fiddle with their firearm when the range is cold. That includes messing around at a bench, and bringing or removing a firearm to and from the firing line. I have gotten into some pretty heated discussions over it.

People that will sweep the entire firing line. I am very careful to NEVER point my firearm in someone elses direction wether loaded or not. That keeps me from injuring someone and gives them the peace of mind they deserve while shooting.

Now this one occurs mosly on pistol range. A table full of pistols with one or more pointed up and down the firing line. I got into a huge argument over this one years ago with a guy. I politely said something and he really blew up on me. I couldnt believe it. I seen him around town some time after that dressed in a policeman uniform and thought to myself " he is an even bigger jackass than I thought".

Not clearing your firearm before rang is officially cold and people are down range.

I hate to sound like an ass but following the safety rules isnt too much to ask. Respect the people next to you.
When I joined my first club years ago I was really nervous about shooting around groups of people. Especially ones I didnt know. I didnt want to look like a noob or an ass and I followed and still follow the rules to the letter. Luckily I met and got in with a group of older gentleman that kind of took me in and showed me the ropes. One of them was a guy by the name Bob Jourdan. Some of you guys around here might have known and remember him.
Anyways, I have rambled and ranted long enough.

I'm Spoonbill Potterfield and thats how it is
You don't need RSO to enforce safety. The club must have orientation for new members and people who break club safety policies are thrown out. Members can complain to club officers
 
You don't need RSO to enforce safety. The club must have orientation for new members and people who break club safety policies are thrown out. Members can complain to club officer

One of my better stories ( which I will not tell) involves one of the big wig discipline directors. It was absolute bull crap and I ended up keeping my mouth shut. Its a pretty exclusive club to get in to. It took me ten years of trying. I just try to go on days that I know wont be busy and I show up early and prepare to stay late if I have to to get done with what Im trying to do.
 
I am letting my cert. expire, I refuse to spend one more dime with NRA while W.L is at the helm.
Besides the club I belong to only believes in "self policing" on the range.
When something is wrong I pack up and go home and wait for another day, it is only 20 minutes away and I can go any time, as long as it is after 10am and before 7PM.
 

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