Why don't PRS guys wear Safety Glasses ?
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Very good point. But look at the F-Class shooters at the V2 Finale. A significant percentage with no eye protection. Same with many Palma shooters, and benchrest shooters. There are many excuses. But every shooter should wear approved eye protection whenever shooting any gun -- even rimfires.
Yes it can happen to you department
I was shooting a SIG 9mm pistol just a few weeks ago and a primer burst rearward. Hot stuff and a piece of the extractor blew back into my face. Had my eye protection in place so no issue. FWIW this firearm had never had a single malfunction in thousands of rounds of use. But it only takes one bad primer or bad case.
Every rifle shooter should look up gun designer Paul Mauser. According to Wiki: "Mauser lost his left eye in 1901 as a result of a cartridge explosion during a test firing of the self-loading C98."
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I was shooting a SIG 9mm pistol just a few weeks ago and a primer burst rearward. Hot stuff and a piece of the extractor blew back into my face. Had my eye protection in place so no issue. FWIW this firearm had never had a single malfunction in thousands of rounds of use. But it only takes one bad primer or bad case.
Every rifle shooter should look up gun designer Paul Mauser. According to Wiki: "Mauser lost his left eye in 1901 as a result of a cartridge explosion during a test firing of the self-loading C98."
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Find the anti fog that works for your glasses and climate.
Happened to me about a month ago.
Folks just wear protective gear. Period.
Quit wearing wrap-arounds. They provide good protection to the sides but are terrible about fogging up and shooting on the line the greatest danger is from your rifle, not from the guy beside you.
A couple of years ago a very, very experienced shooter two tables over from me had a rifle blow up. If he had not had eye protection on he would probably have been blinded in both eyes from the bits of brass that sank into the polycarbonate lenses but did not go through them.
LRTom
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Use a glycerin soap like Neutrogena, couple of swipes on both sides of the lens then polish with a soft rag. No more fog!
JEFFPPC
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I am not an F class guy but I am shooter. First off load properly and know what your loads do in hot temps. Quit trying to get an extra5 fps. It's my business and responsibility to decide if I wear safety glasses. Don't "big brother me". I am already over run with that from all divisions of the govt. We are adults we can decide what risks we are willing to incur. I have much more fear traveling on the highways to a shoot than having the type of accident your talking about. You decide what makes you feel safe and I will decide for myself what I need to do. Get your mommy state mentality out of our sport.
rjtfroggy
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I agree with the Too much Gov. part but this is about being SMART & SAFE all at once.
Over my tenure of shooting, about 45 years I have only popped 2 primers with no effect, but have seen others with proven safe loads that did significant damage to guns and glasses, not to mention small cuts and burns to their cheeks. I never used to wear any now after seeing a gent next to me have his glasses peppered with metal I wear each and every time I shoot.
But hey to each their own.
It is going to take rule change. To protect shooters from themselves. That means me too. Just my two cents Tommy Mc
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Remember it may not be your gun or load that fails, but the gun or load of the guy on the next bench over. You can’t control for his mistakes or his ammo defects.
Dead Eye
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I don’t think this thread should be taken as an attack if you choose not to wear safety glasses. I also believe in the freedom to make your own decisions.That being said as you get older you are constantly reminded getting through life can be like walking through a minefield. This usually occurs to you by observing cataclysmic events that happen to others. Most of us feel terrible for those others but can do nothing to change the outcome for them A little reminder to mitigate the risk can go a long ways. I will be looking into getting a pair of glasses for shooting.
JEFFPPC
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Your last sentence is the American way. We make our own decisions accepting the rewards or consequences, our choice.
Sorry, had to quote you because your username and this thread just go together.
madmixerman
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Thanks to safety glasses I have two good eyes. About three years ago I had a case rupture do to an improper chambering job. I ended up with a bloody nose ,fat lip( from the hot gases blow back) and a mark in the middle of the left lens where a piece of brass hit it. If I hadn't had glasses I would be blind in one eye. So it's glasses for me ,but, to each his own on whether to wear them or not.
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Re Jeff PPC:
Quote: "We make our own decisions accepting the rewards or consequences, our choice."
Yes, it may be the individual's choice, but the consequences are not just to the individual.
If there is a serious injury, public resources will likely be called (EMT, ambulance) and public facilities may be used (ER, Hospital).
If there is a serious injury, the range may be closed, temporarily, or for a day, or even longer while the incident is investigated. This clearly impacts others negatively.
If there is a lasting injury, the injured party may not be able to work again (in the same job), creating a demand for public income support and/or continuing health care funding. So the decision not to wear safety protection may create a burden on the community.
If the person suffers a serious injury this could impact those family members for whom the injured party has provided support and guidance. Do you want to be a blind father to your son or daughter?
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I will say this, anyone who has shot pistols knows that you are an IDIOT if you don't wear eye protection with handguns. With a semi-auto, even if there is not an actual accident, it is not uncommon to get a spent cartridge in the face, or get a ricochet if shooting steel.
And if you shoot a semi-auto shotgun or semi-auto rifle, it is crazy not to wear eye protection. You WILL have smoke and particles coming out of the ejection port just inches away from your eyes. Even if the port is on the “far side”, your eyes are right on the centerline. There is a reason Eye Protection is mandatory for Sporting Clays and Skeet comps.
Even with a bolt-gun on the bench, all it will take is one defective primer or overcharge to cause a problem. That primer could be defective and it is very, very unlikely you could see anything wrong with it even if you inspect it carefully and weigh it before seating (and how many people actually do that with every single primer they seat).
Quote: "We make our own decisions accepting the rewards or consequences, our choice."
Yes, it may be the individual's choice, but the consequences are not just to the individual.
If there is a serious injury, public resources will likely be called (EMT, ambulance) and public facilities may be used (ER, Hospital).
If there is a serious injury, the range may be closed, temporarily, or for a day, or even longer while the incident is investigated. This clearly impacts others negatively.
If there is a lasting injury, the injured party may not be able to work again (in the same job), creating a demand for public income support and/or continuing health care funding. So the decision not to wear safety protection may create a burden on the community.
If the person suffers a serious injury this could impact those family members for whom the injured party has provided support and guidance. Do you want to be a blind father to your son or daughter?
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I will say this, anyone who has shot pistols knows that you are an IDIOT if you don't wear eye protection with handguns. With a semi-auto, even if there is not an actual accident, it is not uncommon to get a spent cartridge in the face, or get a ricochet if shooting steel.
And if you shoot a semi-auto shotgun or semi-auto rifle, it is crazy not to wear eye protection. You WILL have smoke and particles coming out of the ejection port just inches away from your eyes. Even if the port is on the “far side”, your eyes are right on the centerline. There is a reason Eye Protection is mandatory for Sporting Clays and Skeet comps.
Even with a bolt-gun on the bench, all it will take is one defective primer or overcharge to cause a problem. That primer could be defective and it is very, very unlikely you could see anything wrong with it even if you inspect it carefully and weigh it before seating (and how many people actually do that with every single primer they seat).
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shoot4fun
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About five years ago I was with friends shooting prairie dogs. We were with a guide doing "drive-by" sniping when I felt a face full of foreign matter. The guy in the front seat, three feet away, had blown a case head. Luckily, we all had shooting glasses on and no one was injured. Without the shooting glasses, well who knows.
I remember a picture posted on this forum a few years back. It was a Savage 338LM that had been fired with a cleaning rod left in from the muzzle. How could anyone see that kind of destruction and not wear shooting glasses?
I remember a picture posted on this forum a few years back. It was a Savage 338LM that had been fired with a cleaning rod left in from the muzzle. How could anyone see that kind of destruction and not wear shooting glasses?
watercam
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NRA has already made the rule change - all competitive shooters shall wear safety eye wear in NRA Sanctioned events and competitions. As of early this year.
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