REMAGE Accuracy Potential

[searcher]

WOW!

That should have read .30". Gotta read these before I push send!!!

 

[searcher]

At 100 yards?

That should have read under .30". And that is at 100 yards. That is with varmint bullets like 50 V-Max, 50 Varmint Grenades, 52 A-Max, 40 V-Max. Has shot groups in the 1's with 52 Bergers. Pretty amazing what some of those stock Remington rifles are capable of.

 

[Nomosendero]

This is encouraging indeed! Some have made light of the "Remage", saying you won't see them in competition and never the most accurate. I wondered about that, considering have Savage rifles fare very well at their price point and even at times beyond their price point. So, I wondered why a Remage with a Quality custom barrel would not excel. No, you would not have a floating bolt head but with that quality barrel, bedding and the other qualities mentioned earlier, why would you not get a quality rifle. If someone thinks you could not get comparable performance with a Remage as opposed to a conventional setup with the same quality barrel, I would love to hear why, real reasons.

I have a Rem. 700 .270, I am strongly considering a Remage setup, with a 6.5 RPM and 30-06 tubes.
Thanks to all for the info!

 

[urbanrifleman]

Wow, things are really changing on this board. 3 years ago this thread would have diatribes about how a prefit barrel is just "a cheap shortcut" and "will never compare to a shouldered barrel".

Not to mention the fact that a Remington 700 not squared was a piece of junk!!!

Good for you guys. Good for you.

SQUARING REMINGTONS MIGHT CAUSE MORE TROUBLE THAN THEY FIX

 

[urbanrifleman]

Here.

 

[Nomosendero]

Wow, things are really changing on this board. 3 years ago this thread would have diatribes about how a prefit barrel is just "a cheap shortcut" and "will never compare to a shouldered barrel".

Not to mention the fact that a Remington 700 not squared was a piece of junk!!!

Good for you guys. Good for you.

SQUARING REMINGTONS MIGHT CAUSE MORE TROUBLE THAN THEY FIX

Yes, that is one of the reasons I have been watching this and not acting on it. Some of the other long range sites are changing their tune a little as well.

 

[Nomosendero]

Truing the action is not necessary with a Remage barrel. Actually, I heard from a gunsmith, that truing involves opening up the threads in the receiver, As well as squaring off the face of the receiver, which would affect the fit of the new barrel. The barrel threads would be a bit smaller, creating a loose condition. He advised against it. He said on a conventional referral, they true up the receiver, and put bigger threads on the barrel, to accommodate the looser threads on the receiver. Remage barrels are pre-threaded, so they cannot accommodate these differences.

That makes sense, thanks for pointing that out.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Yes, that is one of the reasons I have been watching this and not acting on it. Some of the other long range sites are changing their tune a little as well.

Because they were wrong. They were always wrong.

 

[Nomosendero]

Maybe some may not be building as many custom rifles because of this, surely that's not the reason !

 

[urbanrifleman]

Maybe some may not be building as many custom rifles because of this, surely that's not the reason !

I am curious about something. If someone buys an action and builds a super accurate benchrest rifle from parts from my company, is that a custom rifle?

 

[Nomosendero]

Nice site
I was in reference to (1 barrel 1 rifle) as opposed to (1 action/rifle, several barrels), not too hard to figure out what I was referring to.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Nice site
I was in reference to (1 barrel 1 rifle) as opposed to (1 action/rifle, several barrels), not too hard to figure out what I was referring to.

I wasn't trying to be a smart aleck. I was serious.

Things have changed. I think it is a good thing!!

 

[Nomosendero]

Amen to that !

 

[yotehater]

My concern, maybe someone can satisfy, is how do they set the bolt nose clearance to the base of the barrel? I understand setting headspace is no issue with the nut but how do you keep it from digging into the bolt without having excessive clearance there?

 

[jepp2]

If someone thinks you could not get comparable performance with a Remage as opposed to a conventional setup with the same quality barrel, I would love to hear why, real reasons.

I'm in complete agreement with you.
Rifle 1: Kelbly Atlas Tactical action, Krieger 8T shouldered barrel chambered in 6CM
Rifle 2: Rem 700 SS trued action, Krieger 8T bugnut barrel chambered in 6CM

Same barrel profiles, no clear winner. Sometimes the Kelbly, sometimes the Rem. You might think the shouldered barrel would have the advantage with the Kelbly action, but hasn't proven it. Both shoot great.

 

[Nomosendero]

Thanks for the info

 

[dolek]

I'm in complete agreement with you.
Rifle 1: Kelbly Atlas Tactical action, Krieger 8T shouldered barrel chambered in 6CM
Rifle 2: Rem 700 SS trued action, Krieger 8T bugnut barrel chambered in 6CM

Same barrel profiles, no clear winner. Sometimes the Kelbly, sometimes the Rem. You might think the shouldered barrel would have the advantage with the Kelbly action, but hasn't proven it. Both shoot great.
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Good to see a side by side comparison with the same round . I have found the same to be true, but do not have two chambered the same .

 

[ACF]

My concern, maybe someone can satisfy, is how do they set the bolt nose clearance to the base of the barrel? I understand setting headspace is no issue with the nut but how do you keep it from digging into the bolt without having excessive clearance there?

You won't be able to set the bolt nose clearance, you're married to the dimensions that the barrel was made to. Less headspace, less bolt nose clearance. More headspace, more bolt nose clearance.

Chris

 

[yotehater]

You won't be able to set the bolt nose clearance, you're married to the dimensions that the barrel was made to. Less headspace, less bolt nose clearance. More headspace, more bolt nose clearance.

Chris

What dimension do they use?

 

[Evan]

What dimension do they use?

I've been told in the ballpark of 0.020" to make sure that there is enough. They don't want the bolt head jamming against the barrel in any circumstance, but a little extra isn't too much of a problem, within reason. Want to emphasize that I'm relaying this third person and it is not from my own measurements.