6.5mm-06 vs 6.5mm-284 vs 6.5 Creedmoor
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I faced a similar decision for a rifle to be used for maybe 80% target and 20% deer and varmint hunting. I decided to go with the 6.5/284 and to go with a Savage so that I could flop out barrels myself when they go bad. You can get drop-in barrels for Savages for maybe $350 and you shouldn't have to find/hire/wait for a gunsmith. People here gripe about the Savage triggers (Erik mainly, and relentlessly), but I've been shooting for 35 years and the Target Accutrigger on mine (Model 12 F Class) is the best trigger I've ever used. Maybe I just lucked upon an unusually good specimen, I don't know. (It only adjusts down to about 6 ounces, so if you need a 1 microgram pull weight, this may not be for you.)
Whatever you decide, good luck in your decision.
Whatever you decide, good luck in your decision.
GSPV
A failure to plan is a plan for failure.
It isn't as well known, but there definitely are barrel nut systems for the Remington just like the Savage. Google "Rem Nut" and/or "Remage". Or just call Jim Briggs. Stocks will have to be relieved to accommodate the nut, but otherwise, it's a drop in. The bolt can even be converted to the Savage floating/swappable design. That's a trip to a competent gunsmith, of course.
(There, Eric, I took out the majority of the Savage comments just for you.)
The OP laid down a need, then offered three suggestions that were 6.5s. Perhaps it was a hard requirement, perhaps it was not.
OP: I would look around and see if you have a 1,000 yard range to shoot at. It really isn't very common in some parts of the country.
(There, Eric, I took out the majority of the Savage comments just for you.)
The OP laid down a need, then offered three suggestions that were 6.5s. Perhaps it was a hard requirement, perhaps it was not.
OP: I would look around and see if you have a 1,000 yard range to shoot at. It really isn't very common in some parts of the country.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
This thread is about which 6.5 to use, not about Savage, so let's keep them out of the discussion.
Erik Cortina
Team Lapua Brux Borden Captain
GSPV said:
I be the won't listen to them either.
So, I have a 1984 super sweet Rem 30-06 BDL with magazine. I was thinking of a 6.5x30-06. Then maybe a 6.5X .284. I’m beginning to feel a 6.5 Creedmoor would be best/one of the best conversions. Is this correct? I already have a 6.5 Creedmoor and a nice 7mm Rem Mag. I just don’t see the need for a 30-06. I would love a good suggestion for a hunting rifle. White and Mullies. Maybe Prongs and would love an Elk. Just don’t want the rifle to go to waist. Thanks for your help!
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I don’t compete but I do go to the range a lot longer strings of fire 40 to 60 rounds for range session I feel average accuracy is about 1200 rounds on the barrel as I said in another post my last barrel I started Molly coating bullets I have 1500 rounds on my last barrel and it is still going strong
6.5x284
I'm not seeing that and have never seen that in my 6.5-284 barrels. Usually I get 1500 rds from one. Certainly depends on how hard you run them but generally 1200 minimum. My accuracy has deteriorated around 1200+. Even at that point one MOA was obtainable. Not bench rest or competition accuracy but certainly great hunting rifle accuracy which is how I mainly use my rifles. When running 3050 fps with 140s and H4832sc, I get 1500 rds average before hitting 1 MOA. That's been my experience anyway. I'd opt for the 6.5-284. Even if you burn up a barrel during your first year, there not expensive and the experience you'll have gained doing it is invaluable. Get the best tool for the job and go straight for the 6.5-284.
Chocdawg
Silver $$ Contributor
I changed to 6.5x47L last year and have never looked back. Learn to read wind, trickle your loads, and hold hard.
I have built several rifles in 280AI to be used for what you are looking for. 6.5-284 works fine too but may be harder to get to feed correctly in some rifles. 6.5-06 and 6.5-284 are ballistically identical and use the same load data.
XTR
F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
You posted on a 5 yr old thread, and some things have changed a little. For one the 6.5 Creedmoor has become one of the most commonly sold chamberings today, but you probably know that, you have one.
You're stuck in the middle. Your 6.5 Cred and your 7mmRM will cover pretty much everything in North America you might want to hunt except maybe big bears, and your 30-06 has taken everything that walks, but it is in the middle and is overlapped by the other two.
That said, if you want to re-purpose your 30-06 I'd build it into something that is outside of the performance of the other two, it is a long action, and it will take pretty much any of the chamberings listed here.
Here is my thought if I was in your place. You have a 6.5 short action, and a 7mm Mag. Both a capable hunting rounds, but shoot lighter bullets, why not get something with some thump. If you want a hunting rifle build a 35 Whelen or a 338-06. Both are based on the 30-06 case and are proven performers on big game.
Check um out.
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billlarson
"Hold Into The Wind"
Target shooting only...out to 1000yds.
1) creedmoor.most barrel life of the 3,inherit accuracy,cheaper to shoot.
2)6.5-06..more speed,more fussy about loads,shorter barrel life.
3)6.5-284...most devastating caliber of the 3..for competition.i,ve had barrels go in 400 rnds.accurate and fast.3000 ft/sec.with 142,s..
Also consider the 6.5x55 swede..
Omho
Bill
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Why ? Savage makes some good 6.5 calibers also.
farmerjohn
Gold $$ Contributor
XTR is telling you right. To be DRT you need a 180gr properly constructed hunting bullet at around 3000fps for the animals you mentioned for an end to end shot at 400yds. You can't, or at least I can't, mix up a target rifle and a hunting rifle capable of target capability and still carry it in the field. I know it doesn't scratch your itch to build something new but your 06 is capable of doing what you want out to at least 350yds and has been doing it all over the world since the early 1900s. The yardage I listed is what you can do with out a lot of hold over or scope adjustment. It will kill well beyond that. This is just my experience from over 50 years of hunting and target shooting....
John
I went with the 6.5 creedmoor for target. Just like you I got it when I wanted to try some longer distance shooting and it is great for that purpose. I use it now just as a fun gun. I went with a Savage because it was on sale and also had a rebate available. It shoots great.
As to the Savage trigger. It’s a good trigger for general use but I use Savage rifles and actions for competition. I change them out of my competition rifles for rifle basix sav 2 triggers. I like those better than the Accu trigger only because I am able to set them lower than I can get the target accutrigger to go and still function.
As to the Savage trigger. It’s a good trigger for general use but I use Savage rifles and actions for competition. I change them out of my competition rifles for rifle basix sav 2 triggers. I like those better than the Accu trigger only because I am able to set them lower than I can get the target accutrigger to go and still function.
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