Randy Robinette 112 gn 30 cal bullets

[BenPerfected]

I wanted to communicate what a great result Randy offered to resolve our differences on some of the BIB 112gn 30 cal bullets. One lot was working great in my loads and the other lot was a struggle for me to get them to work in my chamber. Randy sent me a email and offered for me to return that lot. This lot was returned and he just sent me a Postal Money Order for my full cost of that lot.
Great customer support Randy, it doesn’t get any better than this.
Ben

 

[jimmymac]

 

[BenPerfected]

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Huh?

 

[jimmymac]

It just felt like the right time for a random Rod Serling moment.

 

[AlNyhus]

I wanted to communicate what a great result Randy offered to resolve our differences on some of the BIB 112gn 30 cal bullets. One lot was working great in my loads and the other lot was a struggle for me to get them to work in my chamber. Ben

".....the other lot was a struggle for me to get them to work in my chamber."

That was because you pointed the bullets and in the process made the o.d. larger. That's why they wouldn't chamber!

Randy took care of you and refunded all of your money, even for the bullets you destroyed. He did this because he's a class act and has more integrity in his little finger than many have in their entire body.

Then your original post, ranting about this and containing all sorts of hokey math...somehow disappeared.

If you're going to make it look like you're coming clean...come all the way clean!

 

[dcali]

Yes, let's be clear here. When someone searches Google and finds this thread (especially given that the other one is gone), they're likely to think Randy made some bad bullets. He did not. It is physically impossible for a .308 bullet to come out of a die at .311". He did not do that - whoever pointed the bullets did. In other words, he made great bullets, and then he gave you your money back for some mangled bullets that he had nothing to do with mangling. That *is* great customer service. And great patience.

You can't wash your car with a sand blaster and then complain to Ford that it doesn't have any paint.

 

[AlNyhus]

Also, if a poster starts a thread and later deletes his/her original post, the entire thread disappears.

Dots connected accordingly and the clock is running on this one. -Al

 

[Yote Hunter]

That is awful! If the bullets were in fact ruined due to the purchasers ignorance then a true class act would not have asked Randy to suffer the loss and give him his money back. Reverse the scenario here and see if the original purchaser would have been as humble and kind as Randy was. Randy has always been super helpful and kind to me and his word is golden.

 

[thatguyshm]

This selfish act has made me look at BIB for some bullets simply to support this tremendous bullet maker to offset that kind of terrible customer behavior. Well done Sir.

 

[TrxR]

I wish they were easier to get in canada.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Randy is one of the best.

Yes, let's be clear here. When someone searches Google and finds this thread (especially given that the other one is gone), they're likely to think Randy made some bad bullets. He did not. It is physically impossible for a .308 bullet to come out of a die at .311". He did not do that - whoever pointed the bullets did. In other words, he made great bullets, and then he gave you your money back for some mangled bullets that he had nothing to do with mangling. That *is* great customer service. And great patience.

You can't wash your car with a sand blaster and then complain to Ford that it doesn't have any paint.

Be sure this stays here to make sure its clear.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Just to reflect the true posting for search purposes

".....the other lot was a struggle for me to get them to work in my chamber."

That was because you pointed the bullets and in the process made the o.d. larger. That's why they wouldn't chamber!

Randy took care of you and refunded all of your money, even for the bullets you destroyed. He did this because he's a class act and has more integrity in his little finger than many have in their entire body.

Then your original post, ranting about this and containing all sorts of hokey math...somehow disappeared.

If you're going to make it look like you're coming clean...come all the way clean!

 

[BenPerfected]

Randy is one of the best.




Be sure this stays here to make sure its clear.

".....the other lot was a struggle for me to get them to work in my chamber."

That was because you pointed the bullets and in the process made the o.d. larger. That's why they wouldn't chamber!

Randy took care of you and refunded all of your money, even for the bullets you destroyed. He did this because he's a class act and has more integrity in his little finger than many have in their entire body.

Then your original post, ranting about this and containing all sorts of hokey math...somehow disappeared.

If you're going to make it look like you're coming clean...come all the way clean!

The base of a pointed bullet does not change due to pointing. I point all my bullets including Bart’s 105 Hammers, BIB’s 114 gn bullets with a .307 base & the 6mm Berger 105 and the 115 gn. Bullet tipping offers a very small improvement in BC. Why do it?...same reason some of us take numerous steps in reloading looking for perfection & improved accuracy. Notice the tips on Bart’s bullets, Bart doesn’t “tip” his bullets because his bullets show no improvement from tipping and they are extremely consistent as is out of the mould.
Ben

 

[ebb]

WOW I once heard of Home Depot taking back a set of tires. But Home depot doesn't sell tires.

 

[AlNyhus]

The base of a pointed bullet does not change due to pointing. Ben

In the now-deleted thread you initiated, Randy had posted pictures of your work and the resulting dimensional changes.

Bart doesn’t “tip” his bullets because his bullets show no improvement from tipping and they are extremely consistent as is out of the mould.
Ben

Bart would doubtless be surprised to learn that his excellent bullets were from a "mould".

Nice try at a redirect, though. Doubtful you'll get any any takers.

Good shootin'. And please be safe -Al

 

[Shoebox]

In have never used Bart's bullets, in have read a few threads about the MAN and his bullets, i even entered his bullet naming comp, which I thought great and generous idea,
It appears to my that apart from high quality bullets, he is a high quality man.
I wish him all the very best !!

Still think I should have won the bullet naming comp !!

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

I wish they were easier to get in canada.

If you have a catchers mit ! Ha !

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

The base of a pointed bullet does not change due to pointing. I point all my bullets including Bart’s 105 Hammers, BIB’s 114 gn bullets with a .307 base & the 6mm Berger 105 and the 115 gn. Bullet tipping offers a very small improvement in BC. Why do it?...same reason some of us take numerous steps in reloading looking for perfection & improved accuracy. Notice the tips on Bart’s bullets, Bart doesn’t “tip” his bullets because his bullets show no improvement from tipping and they are extremely consistent as is out of the mould.
Ben

114 ?, .307 base ? Everyone knows that pointing dun wrong will result in damage to a perfect bullet ! Please just say your sorry to Randy

 

[joshb]

I think I missed something.......

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I think I missed something.......

Theres a synopsys above. Basically he pointed some bib bullets, the base grew to huge dimensions, randy got blamed but in the end bought back the ruined bullets because he is a great guy. The original thread got deleted, and now it started to look as if randy had to buy back shitty bullets he made.