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Remington vs Savage for FTR

Remington or Savage

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Kurz said:
As stated earlier, this is a definitive 50/50 conversation for most folks. Neither group hates the other but there are reasons for having a favorite which might not carry weight for the other team.

If like NASCAR, all cars (rifles) are made relatively equal then it must be the best driver, mechanical crew and strategy which wins. It's also a case of just how much any particular shooter needs or can control in order to succeed to the level they aspire to. Not all of us need or want to be the International F-Class champion. Rather, we enjoy all of the aspects of shooting F-Class (or related competitions) especially the camaraderie at the matches. In addition, not all of us have the larger degree of disposable income to warrant spending $4 - $8,000.00 on a rifle and the accoutrements.

So the decision comes down to what is affordable, keeping wife happy too, and will be at least satisfactory to shoot and you can live with. I quit shooting Remingtons quite a few years ago. I have shot Savages, worked on Savages, built 'custom' Savages and competed against Savages but I will never own one. I was turned to the Dark Side :eek: the first time I shot a custom action. With a range of $900 - $2,500.00, there is something for everyone's tastes and needs. If I can't afford the one I want, I sell something else or wait while I save up the amount needed. But I understand those who want what they want and they want it now!:D

It wasn't all that long ago when an article about some big championship was won by a man shooting a Savage. This was a big deal event not just some local egg shoot. The reason the article became popular was simply the fact that a Savage had been used to win an International competition. Remember what I said about drivers and cars or shooters and rifles. The shooter will always make the difference.

If you want to drive a Savage or a Remington, jump in and have fun! But when I back the Maserati out of the garage, you better buckle up because I want to blow your doors off!;):D
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I also seen guys with custom actions that couldn't hit their pick up truck at 600 yards
(Granite 1 above)is a perfect example of taking lesser equipment and shooting great.
That load development is very impressive I don't care who you are..
I'd venture to say he could outshoot most customs with those loads shooting that flat.

Granite 1 definitely gets it!
 
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Thanks “SPJ”. I shoot Remington and Savage. I don’t have a problem with either. I have been working with this Savage for a while now and it’s become a lot of fun. I also think the custom action argument makes sense if you’re seriously into competing. I’m not. I enjoy trying to make something better. Savage is in my price range.
 
New custom barrels are cheaper on the Savage, because with some simple tools you don't have to pay for a gunsmith to install every time. This matters more if you are running a cartridge at a speed and desire for accuracy that leads to replacements in 2500 or fewer rounds than if running a combination that is good for 5000+. In F-TR, a .223 loaded with 80 SMKs to 2750 will last a lot longer than one loaded with 90 grain bullets to 2800+. Likewise, pushing 200+ grain bullets fast in .308 also shortens barrel life.

If a great trigger is important to you, there is little for a Savage that can compare with a Jewell in a Rem 700. But with the available support in F-TR, I've had very few students unable to maintain 0.5 MOA with an Accutrigger. But still, the Jewell is without peer in the Savage world.
 
Admittedly, there are a bunch of folks out there that cannot stand the Savage Accu Trigger. because of the 2 stage design. I have this discussion with lots of folks and many who have tried my rifle have such poor trigger finger discipline, they sometimes can't even get it to go off. They are unknowingly used to pulling at an angle and the Accu Trigger won't let you get away with that. Pull straight back and it works. Every. Time.

It is a double edged sword as far as trigger pull goes. All of my FTR stock PTA Accu Trigger guns break at 10 oz. and break like glass. I use molybdenum grease on the sear and it works very well. I don't like a super light trigger, but that's just me.

The one big advantage that I see with the Savage trigger is that if it is set too light or gets dirty or whatever, it won't go off if the blade isn't depressed. If you get a little too happy slapping the bolt down on anything but an Accu Trigger and trip the trigger, you have probably missed. This is common with folks that are trying to get their Accu Triggers as light as possible. It's a proven design that is being copied by another manufacturer now, so it must have it's merits.

No, it's not a Jewell or Bix and Andy, but then again it has more than it's share of international and national gold medals and wins over the years. To call it wonky, crap, weak or any other derogatory name is typical "keyboard high-master" drivel and is just plain rude.
 
I like my Savages. However, stocks are tuff to find unless you go real Custom, especially F class or Benchrest. As for triggers, there are plenty for the Rem and only the Rifle Basic for the Savage. A good trigger, but only having one choice is tuff. For that reason I would choose Remington 700 if I was just starting a new build on a budget.
 
All I can say is that I have been having a lot of fun with my stock Savage F/TR rifle in 223. Bought the 223 because I was sitting on at least 3500 Sierra 80's from when I was chasing leg points and wanted to shoot them instead of selling. I personally don't have a problem with the trigger or bolt lift. Best scores so far are a 594 & 595 at 600 yards and just made Master at mid-range. I agree buy what you can afford and go have some fun. For me that was the Savage.
 
MGYSGT said:
I like my Savages. However, stocks are tuff to find unless you go real Custom, especially F class or Benchrest. As for triggers, there are plenty for the Rem and only the Rifle Basic for the Savage. A good trigger, but only having one choice is tuff. For that reason I would choose Remington 700 if I was just starting a new build on a budget.
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Timney!
 
HTSmith said:
Please don't take me as a Savage hater--quite the contrary. I'm just not aware of trigger options in say the less than 6 oz range. Many don't want or need triggers that light.
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Sav 2 will get under 7oz. And lighter have to play with all the adjustments. Mine is set at 1.1 oz and is safe.
 
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