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How not to clean your blued action?

#40Fan

Don't put it in your ultra sonic cleaner with hot water and lemishine. No longer blued. :eek:

I am in the process of getting a stock and action ready for a new barrel showing up tomorrow. Figured I'd give the action a good cleaning. Started wiping it off with a rag and some cleaner when I had the thought to put it in the sonic cleaner. Set the timer for 6 minutes and wandered off. Came back in 4 minutes to see a bare action. Crap! Well, toss the barrel nut and recoil lug in there too.

Luckily I have a can of bake on finish. I dried it all off with some paper towel, swirled in acetone and sprayed it down. Cooking in the easy bake oven I use for drying brass and powder coating cast bullets as I type this.
 
#40Fan said:
Don't put it in your ultra sonic cleaner with hot water and lemishine. No longer blued. :eek:

I am in the process of getting a stock and action ready for a new barrel showing up tomorrow. Figured I'd give the action a good cleaning. Started wiping it off with a rag and some cleaner when I had the thought to put it in the sonic cleaner. Set the timer for 6 minutes and wandered off. Came back in 4 minutes to see a bare action. Crap! Well, toss the barrel nut and recoil lug in there too.

Luckily I have a can of bake on finish. I dried it all off with some paper towel, swirled in acetone and sprayed it down. Cooking in the easy bake oven I use for drying brass and powder coating cast bullets as I type this.
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you mean you had a Bare Savage:eek::eek::eek::D har har
 
#40Fan said:
Don't put it in your ultra sonic cleaner with hot water and lemishine. No longer blued. :eek:

I am in the process of getting a stock and action ready for a new barrel showing up tomorrow. Figured I'd give the action a good cleaning. Started wiping it off with a rag and some cleaner when I had the thought to put it in the sonic cleaner. Set the timer for 6 minutes and wandered off. Came back in 4 minutes to see a bare action. Crap! Well, toss the barrel nut and recoil lug in there too.

Luckily I have a can of bake on finish. I dried it all off with some paper towel, swirled in acetone and sprayed it down. Cooking in the easy bake oven I use for drying brass and powder coating cast bullets as I type this.
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Not a blued action ? but a Savage with that dull black ( baked on or painted look ? )
 
#40Fan said:
Hot water and lemishine.



It was an older Model 12, blued action.
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Next time you use it, use De-ionized water only. It's the powerful cavitation taking place in there that does the cleaning. You really don't want to add a detergent.
 
LemiShine ?? Dish water additive to remove spotting from silverware & glasses...This solution removed the blueing from his receiver???..I had to look this stuff up...It is some hyper-hydrated form of citric acid..According to one chemists blog..The MDMS sheet says it is a propriety chemical 61%.. I'm Not learning a lot...I can tell you guys this.The blueing on firearms is easily damaged..I know of a young fellow who's shotgun barrel bares some ugly scars from a quick wipe down using paper towels..He put the gun back in the case w/o oiling it..Less than 3 hours sitting in the case the barrel & some of the receiver were damaged..That was 40 years ago we got caught out in a rainstorm..I keep a silicon/oiled gun rag right in my rifle or shotgun case...Mike in Ct
 
@JRS I don't think there will be a next time.

@mikeinct Lemishine is widely used in wet tumbling brass. Good stuff. Make brass look like new when used in small amounts. I knew once I saw all of the bluing gone, I'd have to do something immediately or I'd end up with a pitted action.
 
mikeinct said:
LemiShine ?? Dish water additive to remove spotting from silverware & glasses...This solution removed the blueing from his receiver???..I had to look this stuff up...It is some hyper-hydrated form of citric acid..According to one chemists blog..The MDMS sheet says it is a propriety chemical 61%.. I'm Not learning a lot...I can tell you guys this.The blueing on firearms is easily damaged..I know of a young fellow who's shotgun barrel bares some ugly scars from a quick wipe down using paper towels..He put the gun back in the case w/o oiling it..Less than 3 hours sitting in the case the barrel & some of the receiver were damaged..That was 40 years ago we got caught out in a rainstorm..I keep a silicon/oiled gun rag right in my rifle or shotgun case...Mike in Ct
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Too many don't realize just how abrasive paper towels are.
 
#40Fan said:
@JRS I don't think there will be a next time.

@mikeinct Lemishine is widely used in wet tumbling brass. Good stuff. Make brass look like new when used in small amounts. I knew once I saw all of the bluing gone, I'd have to do something immediately or I'd end up with a pitted action.
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Ultrasonic cleaners are completely safe as long as they are used correctly (de-ionized water only. Watchmakers and watch repairmen use them daily to eliminate having to disassemble all of the tiny working parts.
 
mikeinct said:
JRS, we need a couple of competent chemists to chime in here...Paper towels are not only abrasive..Paper is finished w all kinds of chemicals ..
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when I used to reblue I always used the coarse brown paper towels you can get by the roll after water displacing oil bath,that is what was recommended,never had a problem
parts cleaning solution for hydrosonic system is different from case solution.I clean dies and parts in mine,no problems,I use distilled water.
 
Most anything with an acidic pH will take bluing off. Coke a Cola will take it off rapidly. I have a friend that has an acidic body chemistry. He could not keep bluing on any of his competition shotguns.
Judging from its name, Lemishine, it has citric acid in it. The MSDS sheet shows nothing. Doesn't even give the pH of the stuff.
 
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