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Your progression on groundhogs from earliest age to present - rifles, optics and distance

Here's just some pics of the progression. Some are my pop's some are mine.





















Hey Spud, hows the little potatoe chips? Nice rifles! My youngest twin just spent her first day deer hunting. No luck, but she liked laying in the pasture watching the meadow and trees at 400 yards for feeding deer more than sitting in her tree stand. I must have done something right.
 
Hey Spud, hows the little potatoe chips? Nice rifles! My youngest twin just spent her first day deer hunting. No luck, but she liked laying in the pasture watching the meadow and trees at 400 yards for feeding deer more than sitting in her tree stand. I must have done something right.


Haha, Thats great. I really doubt that I have to tell you how the first few months were but nowadays they are much better. Great smiles and happiness for the most part from them. I honestly can't tell yet which if either has the drive to hunt and don't really care if they do, I'm just happy to have both those little gals in house. They have two totally different personalities so maybe one will but who knows. I'm glad to hear that you have one out there with you, thats got to be a great time.
 
Parker, looks like you guys are getting hit with a lot of snow.

Rubbing it in?

Can't get out of driveway. Three feet in front of the garage, drifts up to my waist in the drive. 25 MPH constant wind, more coming down. So I spent the day in the basement getting the workbench and various lights set up. Time to do the inside work.
Did I mention I hate snow?

I'd take a photo, but it is dark now.
 
Haha, Thats great. I really doubt that I have to tell you how the first few months were but nowadays they are much better. Great smiles and happiness for the most part from them. I honestly can't tell yet which if either has the drive to hunt and don't really care if they do, I'm just happy to have both those little gals in house. They have two totally different personalities so maybe one will but who knows. I'm glad to hear that you have one out there with you, thats got to be a great time.

I thought my son would like it. he hunts, but oh man, put a fly rod in his hand and he is an artist. I just flail away and catch weeds and tree limbs. daughter #1 has no interest, though she shot a woodchuck, once. daughter #2 is a bunny hugger, and that is fine. Daughter #3 likes to lay in the grass behind a varmint rifle and snipe woodchucks. Last year one of her classes (homeschool) was Intro to Shooting sports. Her graduation was a PD hunt in OK. She did well.

No matter what they like to do, you will find yourself becoming a fan. That is the glory of being a dad. Ain't nothing better.
 
Rubbing it in?

Can't get out of driveway. Three feet in front of the garage, drifts up to my waist in the drive. 25 MPH constant wind, more coming down. So I spent the day in the basement getting the workbench and various lights set up. Time to do the inside work.
Did I mention I hate snow?

I'd take a photo, but it is dark now.
Rubbing it in? No, never. Now that I live in Ohio.
I admit I used to rub it in when I lived in Arizona.
 
Parker they are tater tots!
That's a good one, Kelly.

I'm afraid the early signs of withdrawal are setting in. It's 25 degrees outside, the wife and I are driving the 15 miles to town, and I keep catching myself scanning all the combined bean fields for groundhogs.
I also caught myself rubbing my eyes like I do after scanning for hours with binoculars.
 
That's a good one, Kelly.

I'm afraid the early signs of withdrawal are setting in. It's 25 degrees outside, the wife and I are driving the 15 miles to town, and I keep catching myself scanning all the combined bean fields for groundhogs.
I also caught myself rubbing my eyes like I do after scanning for hours with binoculars.

If I scanned the fields now I would go snowblind. Just got the plow in to get my drive cleared. I had waist high snow drifts four places, and to my waist on teh garage door. They say two feet last night. I say it all blew out of town and landed on my driveway.

Nomad, it is time to start loading for spring! i am considering a 221 FB Contender barrel to replace my Khornet barrel. No more fireforming crap brass. Just load and shoot. Since the kids are going to OK to college, I have an excuse to go west now to the panhandle.
 
That's a good one, Kelly.

I'm afraid the early signs of withdrawal are setting in. It's 25 degrees outside, the wife and I are driving the 15 miles to town, and I keep catching myself scanning all the combined bean fields for groundhogs.
I also caught myself rubbing my eyes like I do after scanning for hours with binoculars.

If I scanned the fields now I would go snowblind. Just got the plow in to get my drive cleared. I had waist high snow drifts four places, and to my waist on teh garage door. They say two feet last night. I say it all blew out of town and landed on my driveway.

Nomad, it is time to start loading for spring! i am considering a 221 FB Contender barrel to replace my Khornet barrel. No more fireforming crap brass. Just load and shoot. Since the kids are going to OK to college, I have an excuse to go west now to the panhandle.
 
OK now that I figured out how to add my story....I am tickled to have run into this thread because I don't currently know anyone as dedicated to shooting hogs as myself.

I started at 17 which I owe to being able to drive since I didn't live in a rural community. I shot along the James River in Va with a Mossberg 640K Chuckster in .22 Mag. It was only good to about 130 yards to anchor a full size hog and many wounded ones drug themselves off. Truth is I hit the largest one of my life at 125 or so, he side rolled 3 times, got up, and went into a hole suitable for a grown bear. My shooting buddy had begged me not to shoot because it was too big to be a groundhog! He looked like one, sat up on his haunches like one so ......

Enough of that stuff. Went and bought a new Winchester in .225. Looking back not a great gun but it worked to about 500 yards if all went right. It wore a Unertyl external adjustment 20 power scope made for Varmint guys versus benchrest models. I used it win the eastern half of Va, mostly bean fields and averaged 10 a day for many years.

Then I discovered Benchrest Shooting and wanted to shoot 1000 yards with the IBS. I made a big leap to a 75 lb heavy class smithed by Clay Spencer that was in 30.338 Win Mag since I had not done serious reloading until then. It wears a NF Benchrest 12-42 power scope and it has a 34 inch barrel 1.875 inch diameter. I primarily shot 175 pills because I did not have extreme ranges as a possibility.

I started working the mountainous areas of Va (to the west) and WVA and always shot off my portable bench. Right away I had many 800 yards or so kills with little difficulty. I accumulated a Barr & Stroud Optical rangefinder and had very good ballistics which I printed out for every 5 yards to 1200 for the temp, altitude, etc of the farm to be hunted that day. All misses were horizontal, the charts were ON THE MONEY.

I had purchased a new Suburban just to carry all the stuff that went on a trip and bought a second bench, the BR Pivot 360 degree model that was $850 way back when! Well, at that point I had more benches than guns so I ordered a custom IBS light gun Tooley MBR stock in 6/7.5 x 55 by Dave Tooley. It shot 105 Bergers at 3300 with superb accuracy. Glass was 12-42 power Nightforce Benchrest It was a good hog gun to 1300 yards but had many get away because the long 105 Bergers, good for competition, were slicing through and exiting too easy.

I had a .22 Vais chambering (6.5 x 55 Swede) that shot molyed 80 grain Berger VLDS at 3560 and use the above gun both ways and it quickly became the default gun because most hogs were within range of it and it was devastating to them with strong WHOCKS coming back from 1000 yard kills.

Now with 2 superb BR quality rigs and TWO tables I started 2 and 3 day expeditions to western Va, and Wva. Vacations and long weekends had me working new territory in Pa and Ohio with kills out to 1355. OK, now I am all in. I bought a diesel powered short school bus (about 7 mpg!) and drug a 6 wheel Polaris around behind it while working for 4-6 months at a time working in Ohio and Pa and shootiing weekends. I had a pair of BigEyes assembled with 2 Swarovski 65 mm spotters which made long periods searching for volunteers possible without major headaches.

This combination worked for many years (.22, 6, and .30). In 2001, after attending the Shot Show, I could not wait to order parts and have assembled a .408 Cheytac and decided I would kill one at a mile before I croaked. Did I mention that I put the US Optics SN-9 scope on it which does well to 2.5 miles. I built a 65 lb bench gun with a 36 inch barrel in a wildcat configuration and it shoots 419 grain solid pills at 3100 fps! Unfortunately, living in Va, I found I was not welcome many places with that kind of horsepower. (more on that later). At this point I am having to be in the northeast to shoot partly because coyotes ate most of Virginias hogs!)

Lots of time passes, I shoot less and less UNTIL I RETIRED and got single again. I am now 70 and still get excited searching and shooting these critters. The bad part is that I often am by myself because all by shooting buddies were still working or babysitting the grandkids, etc.

I have made some good contacts in numerous websites to find people to join me for a couple of days in the northeast and I can leave without notice and stay till I run out of money. That translates to maybe 4 weeks total of shooting at prime locations AT THE RIGHT TIME.

I had not planned on buying any more sticks as a poor retired guy but I got the itch to play the tactical shooting game and had a first class rig built in a .260 Ackly with MacMillan A5 stock, a 30 inch Brux barrel, a BAT Tactical short action, and a new NF ATACR with the Tremore-3 reticule. Unbelievably, my smith shot a 3 shot group at 100 when I was finding a load that was .004 over the .264 bullet diameter which surpassed my TRUE benchrest guns! This is now getting the most attention with setting up with this on one bench and my .22 Vais on the other. I keep a .17 Mach IV handy in case they rush me! My number 1 goal for this coming season is to bust one with the .260 Ackly at 1500 yards and if I can do it (might take two seasons) I will try for the mile. The more time I spend in the NE the more chances to put together opps for hogs at extreme distances. There are NOT many opps to do this.

This is my off season and I enjoy reloading and have a serious ready to go source for all the sticks, I will likely start in western or central Pa when the crops first break ground and work all the hay cuts. My vehicle now that I am retired gets 14 MPG and is a gas powered 350 Ford Van with the extra 30 inch tall top and the extended length. I can sleep in the upper part and all below is packed with 5 sticks, shooting benches, optical range finder, big eyes, 2 tripods, cleaning stuff, and reloading necessities, first aid kit, bowling pins for slow days, etc.

I have enjoyed reading about people that went crazy like I have over these furry critters. I am always wanting to be contacted by those in the NE that I could shoot with on my trips and even hope to find someone like myself that is 1) a groundhog nut and 2) retired and ready to GO.

I did not get into specifics about my kills but they are fairly unusual for the east coast, I want to get a hog with EACH gun at the absolute longest distance possible for that cartridge. I do not show my victims in pictures because It would take a LONG time to walk out and get them particularly since they may not lie on the land I got permission to shoot from AND if I collected them I would have no time to shoot others.

Obviously if I started at 17 and I am now 70, I have left out a lot, but it is past my bedtime.

I now live in Hatteras NC because my no 2 hobby is offshore fishing which costs a lot more than my shooting. Life is GOOD!
 
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VaRandy -

Howdy !

IMHO - You need to gitcherself over to NE Indiana ( Allen Co. for example ) and perhaps NW Ohio ( Paulding CO. for example ).
There are multiple locations there where you can see straight-line, unimpeded to the horizon. Soybeans, corn, wheat; and some hay.
El Nino aside, being on-site a week or so before Memorial Day; should put you in good stead.

A railroad track runs straight East from Norfolk & Southern's " Ft. Wayne yard " in New Haven, parallel to Hwy 14 ( Indiana ) for a bazillion miles.
The farther East & SE you go from New Haven, the less & less farmsteads and stand-alone houses are encountered. Cross the line into Ohio on Hwy 14 or Hwy 30, and it gets even more sparse.

The view from the top the gravel pit on Hwy 14... just a couple miles West of the Ohio line, is spectacular !
From a spot like that, one could command a huge field of regard !

Out there..... you shoot a " Soybeanus Digestus " in-half.... the smart half will " make the hole ".

" Better eat your Wheaties " !!


With regards,
357Mag
 
VaRandy -

Howdy !

IMHO - You need to gitcherself over to NE Indiana ( Allen Co. for example ) and perhaps NW Ohio ( Paulding CO. for example ).
There are multiple locations there where you can see straight-line, unimpeded to the horizon. Soybeans, corn, wheat; and some hay.
El Nino aside, being on-site a week or so before Memorial Day; should put you in good stead.

A railroad track runs straight East from Norfolk & Southern's " Ft. Wayne yard " in New Haven, parallel to Hwy 14 ( Indiana ) for a bazillion miles.
The farther East & SE you go from New Haven, the less & less farmsteads and stand-alone houses are encountered. Cross the line into Ohio on Hwy 14 or Hwy 30, and it gets even more sparse.

The view from the top the gravel pit on Hwy 14... just a couple miles West of the Ohio line, is spectacular !
From a spot like that, one could command a huge field of regard !

Out there..... you shoot a " Soybeanus Digestus " in-half.... the smart half will " make the hole ".

" Better eat your Wheaties " !!


With regards,
357Mag


I was somehow led to believe that much of the area you refer to, particularly Indiana, had been ravaged by Coyotes. Is your enthusiasm for that area recent or back a few years? Getting big open areas is exciting but need furry volunteers! If recent, what would you say was the number a long day that you would see? Since I don't move around when hunting, what would you expect to see from a single good location?

thanx for the reply.
 
Being a left Coast shooter, what's a groundhog?!

Lol, I grew up shooting ground squirrels, .22, 6mmRem (x2 M77, 788), 22-250 custom Mauser, 22 Hornet (Sav 340?) And a few others I can't remember. My longest kill was somewhere around 400 paces. I didn't get the chance to go very often, and now the property has been split between children and legal issues, so now I hunt points.


The closest thing you have is the Western Marmot more common in the NW and Wyoming, Colorado, etc.
 
Back in Pa in the 60's my BIL & I used to hunt woodchucks (groundhogs) in the farm fields north of our town. Always with a Rem 30-06 off the hood of the car. :) No scope, open sights & no rangefinder!! He was better than me but I could hit 6 out of 10 all day long. Have no idea what the ranges were but a lot more than 100 yards. Of course I was a teenager then. :)

BW
 
The closest thing you have is the Western Marmot more common in the NW and Wyoming, Colorado, etc.
We do have Hoary Marmot in the western slope of the Sierra that I've hunted on occasion, but that was a side track from a camping trip. 22 mag works really well for the granite slides we find them in.
 
Here's my progression short n sweet. There are no ground hogs here.. Start-finish. Prairie dogs on the other hand.... Been poppin em since I was 6 years old. 22 LR mostly..
 
Snert... be gentle with Zilla - he has had a very deprived life.:(:(:(:(:(

I was! I understand that not everyone can be so blessed to lay down in green pastures, smelling alfalfa, using the blowing seeds of dandelions to read the wind while planning the execution of the perfect shot across the hills and humps at a wary ol' groundhog. Some of us have to shoot at bazillions of little water balloons with legs while in a sandstorm under a wicked sun while having a rattlesnake crawl up their leg...now mister, that takes GRIT!
 

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