New Barrel Company?

[BarrelBrothers]

Do you guys do any 17 cal barrels?

We will be offering .17 (10 twist) and .20 (12 twist) in the future. We are planning a group buy and would offer ANY caliber that Wilson could run.

We have a block of barrels being run currently and will order a few .17 and .20 cal barrels once the batch being run is shipped. The lead time for us with Wilson is about 6-8 weeks.

Will those twists work for you?

 

[Hal]

John,
How much for the blue printed Rem 700 actions? Thx

Alex

Thanks for the replys!! Wilson DOES lap the barrels we get from them... The barrels are a high mid grade barrel! They are what I consider 3/4 MOA barrels and capable of 1/2 MOA for many shooters. That said Krieger; Rock Creek; Brux and Bartlein are better barrels but they are also 200 bucks more. For a hunting rifle - these barrels are lights out! I would go head to head with any of the other "button rifled" barrels. X-claiber; Pac-Nor; Shilen; ect. I have built rifles with almost every barrel maker out there and bang for the buck (no pun intended) the Wilson barrels are as good as any of the other upper mid grade barrels - just 50-100 bucks less!

Also thoughts on a group buy? We would do something like an introductory price of 150 for SS non-fluted barrels and 210 for fluted.

Has Wilson changed the way they lapped barrels ? A few years ago they machined lapped their barrels .
Good luck on you new venture. You might let the guys over on Saubier.com that you will be handling sub caliber barrels.
Wilson barrels should be great for varmints.
Wilson barrels are used on Coopers.

Hal

 

[BarrelBrothers]

Has Wilson changed the way they lapped barrels ? A few years ago they machined lapped their barrels .
Good luck on you new venture. You might let the guys over on Saubier.com that you will be handling sub caliber barrels.
Wilson barrels should be great for varmints.
Wilson barrels are used on Coopers.

Hal

Thanks for the kind words!! I'm not 100% sure on the technique of the lapping at Wilson I was told they are hand lapped for the bolt action barrels and machined lapped for the AR barrels. I DO know they shoot!!

A little known fact Wilson owns Cooper Rifles and yes Cooper uses Wilson barrels - same exact barrels we are offering.

Keep an eye out for us - we will be offering a wider selection of calibers and contours as time goes on. Kind of hard to do initially when we have to buy in blocks of 100 - same contour and twist. Got to start somewhere!

 

[Sniper338]

Sounda like a sweet deal to toy around qith wildcats with and such... kinda got me thinking about doing something now

 

[BarrelBrothers]

Sounda like a sweet deal to toy around qith wildcats with and such... kinda got me thinking about doing something now

Thanks for your interest!! If you are looking for an inexpensive match grade CM barrel - we do have a few CM #3 contour (1.180" shank diameter tapering to .670" at 26") available for $100.00. Limited run of .257; 308; 8mm; .338; .358; and .375. Same Wilson match grade barrels only chrome. I posted in the "for sale" listings... Factor 20 bucks to ship one barrel but I will combine shipping.

 

[L1986]

We will be offering .17 (10 twist) and .20 (12 twist) in the future. We are planning a group buy and would offer ANY caliber that Wilson could run.

We have a block of barrels being run currently and will order a few .17 and .20 cal barrels once the batch being run is shipped. The lead time for us with Wilson is about 6-8 weeks.

Will those twists work for you?

Would prefer a 9 twist 17 but 10 would probably work. If you have the option of 9 I think it would sell better but that's MHO.

 

[BarrelBrothers]

Copy that... I may just have to buy Wilson a new button to rifle 9 twist for the 17 cals. If they would do something like that, I would! I'm pretty far down their list of customers though... lol. They have many BIG contracts... But it's worth looking into!

 

[Phil]

The 9 would be a seller in the .17, as would an 11 twist in the .20.

Will you guy`s be able to duplicate the Cooper profiles, since Wilson knows what they are???

Phil.

 

[BarrelBrothers]

At this time Wilson will only run .17 10 twists and .20 12 twists in either a #4 contour (.685 at 26") or in a LV contour (.800 at 26"). I will look into other twists and contours but I would need order blocks of 100 of each twist and contour.

I posted a new thread in the small bore category about a group buy. Depending on the interest I will ask Wilson what they are willing to do.

 

[JMsly]

Thanks John Bredderman 415-705-9498

Just a heads up guys, reed this before making up your mind about doing buisness with this company
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f22/anyone-know-john-bredderman-163623/

 

[Riesel]

Just a heads up guys, reed this before making up your mind about doing buisness with this company
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f22/anyone-know-john-bredderman-163623/

Did you actually join today just to share this information? Must be some sour grapes involved. You made my ignore list and feel free to put me on yours.

 

[BarrelBrothers]

Just a heads up guys, reed this before making up your mind about doing buisness with this company
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f22/anyone-know-john-bredderman-163623/

I have nothing to hide and I'm not upset you brought another sites fourm to light. I would ask that you READ the entire string to that thread. There are about 5/6 pages to READ... keep an open mind and feel free to ask questions. As I said - I have nothing to hide and I stand behind the barrels I sell and the work I do! If you are not happy with the barrel or the job - I will replace; repair or refund any payments to an unsatisfied shooter!!

 

[js2013]

You rate your barrels as a high end mid grade barrel. What holds your barrels back from being a high grade barrel?

At your price point those barrels appear to be a good value and I wouldn't expect bench rest type performance, but I always had good luck with wilsons.

 

[BarrelBrothers]

You rate your barrels as a high end mid grade barrel. What holds your barrels back from being a high grade barrel?

At your price point those barrels appear to be a good value and I wouldn't expect bench rest type performance, but I always had good luck with wilsons.

That's a great question... I am in the camp that cut barrels generally are better barrels than button pulled. Hence I don't consider ANY button pulled barrels high end barrels. I may be wrong or brainwashed but that is just my personal experience. With that said - Wilson barrels are as good if not better than the Shilen; Douglas; Criterion; X-claiber; ect. that are out there. The Wilson barrels are 1/2 MOA barrels out to say 5/600 yards. We have had many reports of 1/4 MOA groups with hand loads...

Comparing a Krieger; Rock; Bartlein to a Shilen; Douglas or an X-claiber just isn't a fair comparison. Its the classic cut vs. button rifled argument. But the Wilson barrel is half the price as a cut barrel...

Bottom line for the price - you won't find a better barrel!! We are able to offer the Wilson barrels at a 50-100 discount to our closest competitor because we buy in such volume from Wilson. With the Wilson barrels you are getting a high grade button pulled; lapped barrel for Green Mountain prices!

If the Wilson barrels didnt shoot - I sure wouldn't be buying in blocks of 200+ barrels at a time... We use the Wilson barrels for many of our builds but to your point - if your a competitive 1,000 yard shooter - your probably shooting a Krieger; Bartlein; Rock or another cut barrel. At 500 yards - the Wilson barrels will hold thier own with ANY barrel out there.

Hope that helps explain - like I said for the price point you won't find a better barrel! Maybe a few shooters on the forum will describe thier experience with the Wilson barrels...

 

[js2013]

Thanks for the response.
I too prefer cut but I know button has one plenty of the biggest matches out there.

Get a 6mm 8 twist in 6xc and I'll try one.

 

[JRS]

That's a great question... I am in the camp that cut barrels generally are better barrels than button pulled. Hence I don't consider ANY button pulled barrels high end barrels. I may be wrong or brainwashed but that is just my personal experience. With that said - Wilson barrels are as good if not better than the Shilen; Douglas; Criterion; X-claiber; ect. that are out there. The Wilson barrels are 1/2 MOA barrels out to say 5/600 yards. We have had many reports of 1/4 MOA groups with hand loads...

Comparing a Krieger; Rock; Bartlein to a Shilen; Douglas or an X-claiber just isn't a fair comparison. Its the classic cut vs. button rifled argument. But the Wilson barrel is half the price as a cut barrel...

Bottom line for the price - you won't find a better barrel!! We are able to offer the Wilson barrels at a 50-100 discount to our closest competitor because we buy in such volume from Wilson. With the Wilson barrels you are getting a high grade button pulled; lapped barrel for Green Mountain prices!

If the Wilson barrels didnt shoot - I sure wouldn't be buying in blocks of 200+ barrels at a time... We use the Wilson barrels for many of our builds but to your point - if your a competitive 1,000 yard shooter - your probably shooting a Krieger; Bartlein; Rock or another cut barrel. At 500 yards - the Wilson barrels will hold thier own with ANY barrel out there.

Hope that helps explain - like I said for the price point you won't find a better barrel! Maybe a few shooters on the forum will describe thier experience with the Wilson barrels...

It's quite obvious you know nothing about Broughton or Schneider Barrels, and Wilson isn't in the same league as Shilen and others.

 

[hogpatrol]

One data point here: I have a White Oak 24" Varmint upper in .223 that shoots a tad less than 3/4 moa with 69SMKs and RL 15. They're built with Wilson barrels. I'm happy with it.

 

[BarrelBrothers]

It's quite obvious you know nothing about Broughton or Schneider Barrels, and Wilson isn't in the same league as Shilen and others.

The Broughton barrels run 370 per barrel; The Schneider barrels are 300+. It only an opinion but I would prefer to have a cut rifled barrel if I'm spending 300+ on a barrel.

Curiously how many Wilson barrels have you built with? From your response it sound like zero! I used to use Shilen for 3+ years and have done more than an few side by side comparisons on many barrels vs the Wilson barrels. I'm using actual data collected to make the above statements. Besides if Wilson barrels are crap why is ALL of Cooper rifles use Wilson barrels? Doesn't Cooper offer 1/2 MOA guarantee?

If your happy sending off 370 bucks for a barrel that will group 1/2 MOA - go for it!!! But before you make blanket statements you really should run more than one Wilson barrel. That is not enough data to have an theory. Till then it's just an uneducated guess....

Like I said you spent 370 for 1/2 MOA accuracy and another shooter spends 160 for a Wilson and gets 1/2 MOA accuracy - both barrels are capable of shooting 1/4 MOA. I would be pissed off too if I spent 370 on a barrel and a 160 barrel holds its own with it!!

Thanks for your input but if I would agree with you then we both would be wrong!

 

[swd]

Any plans for 8 twist 6mm tubes?

 

[JRS]

How many Wilson barrels are on the guns in BR/F-Class competition? A review of the equipment lists in competition show zero.