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Präzipress?

Danny,
I am greatly appreciative of your help. Thank you for taking the time to translate their response as well as getting in touch with them in the first place. I must admit I am hesitant going into this without a firm number. Much obliged...

Regards, Matt.
 
Danny,
I am greatly appreciative of your help. Thank you for taking the time to translate their response as well as getting in touch with them in the first place. I must admit I am hesitant going into this without a firm number. Much obliged...

Regards, Matt.

Matt,
I understand that and I have to admit that the option is costly and not exact, even if you just WANT it. To be honest, there would be a bunch of leg work, trouble and waiting associated with this purchase. I don't mind that you are hesitant to move forward after I got the information for you. I was glad to help out and found it interesting, and on top of that, it refreshed my memory on some of these issues brought up.

Danny
 
Matt,

As far as I'm concerned, the PMA Micro Die Adjuster is one of best inventions ever known to mankind. I load for 4 different 6.5x47L rifles, chambered with 3 different reamers and my only regret is that I didn't buy one sooner. Resetting the die for the different chambers now just takes seconds.
 
Matt,
Here is Christian's reply translated. It was good that I waited for my wife to look at it, because I made a small mistake on one sentence.

"Hello Dan. I speak poor English. We have no distributor in the USA, however you can order direct from us at info@turban-cnc.de. We need an export authorization. That can take 6-8 weeks. Unfortunately it can't go any quicker than that. Then we can send the press direct to you. Shipping and customs cost in the USA is about €100.00."

There are a couple of things that I am not clear of in his response, and I will mention them. He gives his email address for ordering direct. As he has a dedicated order page, I do not know if he placed a wrong address in for ordering, or if he is saying that you have to do it that way instead of the dedicated order page.

He mentions "customs cost". Both I and my wife translated that literally from his response. She is German and I am not, and she is involved in International Business concerning sales and shipping of goods internationally, and she is not certain of the scope of what "customs cost" is. I think that it could be what it costs him to get export authorization and and pay the agent for any of the associated services. My wife does not agree with me, but this is not my area of expertise. I also do not know if this would or would not include any duty or not that would be incurred upon entry at US Customs. Perhaps dickn52 can help us out on this, as this may be more in his area of expertise.

**edit* My wife now thinks that "customs cost" is **PROBABLY*" the fees on his end, but not duty, which would be paid by the receiving party when/if/after it enters the USA/US Customs.**

Also, as this was many years ago, I remembered from dickn52's respose, that theoretically you can be refunded for the cost of VAT paid on goods purchased in the EU, that leave the EU (while you are in the USA), if they are not subtracted from the cost in the EU. I remember that we were going to try this once, but did not carry this out to the end. Neither of us remember why now, but we think that it could have been that there was a minimun price requirement for filing, or the amount we would recoup from the typical $300.00 or so that we typically buy and bring home with us was not worth doing the work for. I have a link that describes what can be done, but it is general information, and as the saying goes, "the devil is in the details".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2014/06/19/europe-shopping-vat-refund/10751983/

Hope this helps,

Danny
VAT tax usually is deducted when/before it leaves because the ship to address is outside the EU. If not, then they should include a form that needs to be signed by a Customs officer in the US proving that the item is actually here. Then return the form to the shipping country address they provide. It's time consuming. VAT tax is nothing more than sales tax as we call it. Ok, the export license is similar to our DOS-5 form that Dept of State issues for ITAR items when we ship something out. It's a process is all. Related costs and duties. Usually if the item needs a formal or informal entry a broker will charge a nominal fee to process the entry docs for you. They price that based on the value of the shipment. Shipping costs vary. Most are based on weight like Fedex or UPS. All in all this could be a very expensive shipment. I'd almost wait and go to Germany on a business trip and just lug it back.
 
Thanks Brian , I am in the process of gathering the gear to build a 'Hollywood' style press, they sure look " meaty.''
What would the diameter of the column be ? It looks to be around 2"

Mike.

Mike,

The O.D. is 2.5" with an I.D. of roughly 1.4". The base and column are a single casting. My old friend, that I inherited it from, told me that it came with another, longer handle, for swaging bullets, which he no longer had. He claimed that handle to have been about 3' long. Let me know if you need any other dimensions or photos, etc. Good luck with it.
 
Gentlemen,
I would like to thank everyone for their input. It is greatly appreciated and I feel unusually fortunate to have the benefit of a customs agent, to explain the importation process and taxation, which appears daunting.

I still want one of these presses and can't think there are not enough other "Gucci"( :) ) Handloaders out there the we could not get a small order together. This would, I would hope, spread the pain of the importation process around a little and not leave it on any one person. Should anyone develop an interest I am on board...

Thank you again...

Regards, Matt.

757-581-6270
 
Matt,

As far as I'm concerned, the PMA Micro Die Adjuster is one of best inventions ever known to mankind. I load for 4 different 6.5x47L rifles, chambered with 3 different reamers and my only regret is that I didn't buy one sooner. Resetting the die for the different chambers now just takes seconds.

VH,
It looks to be a step ahead. I am looking forward to trying one on my 6.5x47L. Just have to decide on a press other than the Prazi, at least temporarily, as my Co-Ax is a no go. I greatly appreciate the first hand take on the PMA Micro Die Adjuster. It truly appears to be a step ahead...

Best Regards, Matt.
757-581-6270
 
On the subject of presses , does anybody have a Hollywood ?

Mike.
Which one and made by who? The original ones from the Hollywood Gun Shop are indestructible, especially the Hollywood Senior. They went out of business years ago and my understanding is a new company started manufacturing them. However they seem to have had problems especially with delivery and communication. When you see hem on ebay you have to be sure which one is being offered for sale.
Someone on this site will be able to fill in the missing pieces.

(I think they are a great piece of reloading memorabilia and at the time that were extremely strong compared to the competition. They were expensive then and still are. There are a number of presses today that I feel are at least as 'indestructible' and may produce more precise cartridges. I can't imagine my RCBS A-4 breaking or what it would take to do so. Some folks can break an anvil though.)
 
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Alberta tactical rifle supply makes a nice press. Google is your friend

Canada they can ship direct. tell them Jeff sent you.

Wait until you see the press it is a work of art
 
Matt,
I found this Youtube video by accident when watching videos on the Forster Co-Ax from WiederladerTv. His videos are often in English, but this is in German. It gives you a better look at the press as a minimun. I have to warn you, though. If you feel weak, maybe it is best to not venture further :p The press honestly looks a lot better than the pictures show.

Warning: Extreme reloading tool porn ahead. Proceed at your own risk!


Danny
 
Gentlemen,
I would like to thank everyone for their input. It is greatly appreciated and I feel unusually fortunate to have the benefit of a customs agent, to explain the importation process and taxation, which appears daunting.

I still want one of these presses and can't think there are not enough other "Gucci"( :) ) Handloaders out there the we could not get a small order together. This would, I would hope, spread the pain of the importation process around a little and not leave it on any one person. Should anyone develop an interest I am on board...

Thank you again...

Regards, Matt.

757-581-6270

I'd think finding a vendor to import would be so much easier. Not sure why but Europtic comes to mind, trust me, you're not the only one who would buy.
 
Hello Guys,

I'm Thomas, son of Christian.
My english is far better ;), so I want to give you some answers.

We need an export permission for every press outside EU, this takes 4-8 weeks.
You don't have to pay VAT in the US, so your prices are listed here:
http://www.turban-cnc.de/files/eng_pre.pdf

You can use the order/contact form, or write an email, or call us.

The shipping costs depend on the size of press and what state you live, usually it´s 100 - 150 €.

There is also an english version of the video above:

If you have any more questions, just ask them. I will try to answer them all fast.

Best Regards,
Thomas
 
Hello Guys,

I'm Thomas, son of Christian.
My english is far better ;), so I want to give you some answers.

We need an export permission for every press outside EU, this takes 4-8 weeks.
You don't have to pay VAT in the US, so your prices are listed here:
http://www.turban-cnc.de/files/eng_pre.pdf

You can use the order/contact form, or write an email, or call us.

The shipping costs depend on the size of press and what state you live, usually it´s 100 - 150 €.

There is also an english version of the video above:

If you have any more questions, just ask them. I will try to answer them all fast.

Best Regards,
Thomas

Thomas,
Thank you for your reply here, and thank your father for his initial, very quick reply to my text to him some days ago.

Danny
 
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Guys,

I sent Matt a pm a few days ago, to help him understand the process of ordering.
Seems a few people are interested the process is quite simple.

I have been using a Heavy Prazipress for 18 months now and Christian & Thomas were fantastic to deal with.
As Thomas stated outside of Europe you do not pay VAT it is not added to your amount at all.

You only pay the amount as Thomas listed above and the shipping, I am unsure what the US import charges are but you
could easily work that out, in Australia anything over $1000.00 attracts duty and we can calculate what our customs
cost will be in our country.

So in short cost of press & shipping is all you pay unless it attracts duty in your own country, no hidden costs!

My press arrived in 4 days which is the fastest shipping I have ever had for a overseas item.

Awesome piece of equipment and couldn't be happier!

Regards

Grant
 
Gentlemen,
With the gents information the total price at todays exchange rate is right at $711 and change SHIPPED... Duty is something we will have to take a closer look at. I actually placed an order on the website and they were very friendly and straight forward about the process. It takes about 6 weeks on their end. I'm almost afraid to ask Customs what, if anything, is owed. I can just see the same look the Post Office gave me when I tried to assure them it was legal to send a rifle through REGISTERED mail...

I know the presses are expensive, however, at the current price of the euro they are at their cheapest rate in a long, long time...

Regards, Matt.
 
I'd think finding a vendor to import would be so much easier. Not sure why but Europtic comes to mind, trust me, you're not the only one who would buy.
Good point. I think a great deal of Alex and Jason. As a matter of fact when I first became a Schmidt Bender Dealer back in 2001, when everybody and his brother was not a Schmidt Bender Dealer, I wanted a 4-16x50 PMII, 34mm Tube, with the P-3 Mil-Dot... The importer had not a one and did not know when they would get any stock in. Scope volume during this period was a fraction of what it is today. At any rate I found one of the only ones in the USA at Euro Optic. This was back when you always got Alex when someone answered the phone. In short order, once Alex realized I was a dealer via New Hampshire, he made me a courtesy deal that could not be beat. I should have kicked myself for ever selling that scope... If need be I will run this past JB and he can ask Alex. He is into everything else high end from Germany so I don't know why this would not qualify...

I can see it now... I'm going to find out the Germans make a better Competition Seater and Bushing full length sizer next. How much can a die cost? Famous last words...

Best Regards, Matt
 

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