Discussion in 'Gear Talk: What to Buy? and Gear Evaluations' started by Don, Jul 10, 2017.
Any trouble with delivery or wrong unit ?
No, not since I started using them. First one in '08 I had to wait for 'cause they'd not yet been available. Have three now.
I think my Luck has just run out !!!
??? What's got your luck running thin?
Tom's usually a stand-up guy when it comes to customer service.
X-Treme is no longer licenced for the manufacture and marketing of the triggers.
New options on their way
THAT would explain things, yes....
PM sent ..
fwiw & ime,
If it is Tom Meyers who you are talking about, it is no great loss, imho. I bought two Model 22 Triggers a couple of years ago. Slightly less/more maybe. Installed one in an E series LTR in .308 Win that had had just about anything and everything, for triggers, except for a two stage installed in it without a hitch through the years(99' bought it from Tommy Thompson LE Concepts). One of my favorite factory rifles... Installed Model 22 Mil-spec Trigger. Would not go on safe after firing pin fell and it was recocked. If you (dry)fired, bolted the rifle, and tried to push the safety lever to the "safe" position. You had to take the bolt out of battery to engage the trigger to "Safe" each and every time. Called Mr. Meyers and he said to return the triggers for "evaluation and testing". At that point I thought it was going to be a professional interaction...
I also installed the trigger on a newer stainless 700 in .223 Remington. SAME EXACT ISSUE...
He calls me after he has had the trigger for a few days with an "Aha!" type of attitude like he had caught me. I asked him to cut the theatrics and tell me what he was talking about... He said he had 40X Receivers, because he has such a close relationship to Remington(did not mention my first centerfire was a 40XB-KS, however, that did not make a Remington or McMillan flunkey). At any rate he tells me it works just fine on his 40X. I told him that was just great, however, it failed to function on two box stock Remington 700s that were in no way modified, were obviously different serial ranges made 10 years apart, and not even made of the same steel, and yet the trigger failed to function on both receivers one after the other in the EXACT same manner... Nor have I EVER had a trigger to fail to function like this before on either action...
He was actually going to send them back to me. I laughed and told him if he wanted to send two triggers made specifically for a Remington 700(with his company providing triggers to Remington for different military contract rifles) back to me after I had told him the SAFETY WOULD NOT FUNCTION and then he REFUSED TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT FUNCTION/FIX THE PROBLEM or the painful issue for him, REFUND MY $700 then go right ahead. Long silence. That was the end of our call. He refunded the money the next day minus the shipping cost which he said specifically he was going to cover... I really liked the triggers as far as pull weight. I am a two stage fan in general, however, dealing with that guy was enough to sour you on any trigger.
I look forward to seeing it made by someone else who has a different take on customer service. I hate to disagree with the other poster, however, we evidently just had really different customer service experiences from Tom Meyers and X-Treme...
Regards, Matt Garrett.
Thank you;Matt. The trchnical prooblems are one of the reasons of the rupture. Tha future will be MUCH different.
It is an honor. I look forward to seeing your triggers return to proper manufacturing and representation...
Best Regards, Matt Garrett
You will not be disappointed.... Redesigned with new features.
Well I have my Xtreme 2 Stage Trigger .
Not a CG Jackson ....
I took longer than normal to receive the correct Trigger as ordered.
The Trigger seems to work fine ? Only on Action.
Sent out for Barrel and Tuneing .
Will report after a Rifle is around the Trigger and Firering
Glad you are finally satisfied.
If it works fine on the action, it will be same on the rifle.
BTW, Jackson or Xtreme, it is still and ever a C.G despite names changes and evolutions. When Jackson Rifles in UK realised the difficulties to export in USA, they transferred their inventory to Xtreme who then continued using housings marked Jackson until exhausted.
i have several of the ones Tom made and don't recall having any issues. For many years, I considered them the best money could buy. I'm curious what you're changing and what new features you're adding.
No mechanical design is frozen forever. From a well proven concept, functioning, materials, treatments and production methods and finishes are to be re-thought. This is normal evolution.
Yep. Slang term here is 'tweaking' - doing things to see if they will effect an improvement of some aspect of initial design, whether in performance, durability, reliability, reduced maintenance, or all of those and maybe more.
I'm confused here. So Tom will not be selling the CG Extreme Mod 22 triggers anymore? I just got 2 early last month and I love them.
Off his website just now, this would indicate they're still available.
I bought one earlier this year before learning of the licensing issue, of which no mention was made when I placed my order.
I'll be looking forward to R.G.C.'s update here when his latest trigger design becomes available here in the U.S.
Based on a conversation I had with Mr. Myer a few years back, his shop does not make one trigger at a time. They are made in batches so I expect he has some inventory and when that runs out there will be no more. Speaking in general terms, small shops usually have to contract for heat treating and plating shop services from other vendors. As such, they are at the mercy of their vendors for quality assurance and production schedules.
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