Why is every odd component....

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  1. mikeinct

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    Why is every odd component so hard to find ?? I live in the center of Ct. I know, not really a gun friendly place..This year has been horrible finding components to reload with..Two examples, Primers CCI 450 mag type small rifle..Just about un-obtanium around here..I did find 6 loose packs after three trips out & about...I was only able to find one or two one pound cans of H-4350..VV brand of powder..Forgetaboutit...So today I asked the gents at the counter of one of the largest gun stores "Why can't I find the stuff I need for my reloading?" ....With no hesitation he fires out.."People just aren't reloading like they used to." .....I don't know if it is just here or nationwide...Is Reloading not as common as it used to be.??? It just can't be all these GUN NUTS..People are buying guns..What are they all shooting just 9mm, 223, [pick your caliber] ..I'm thinking other than us fussy rifle shooters ..We are a dwindling breed....Mike in Ct
     
  2. Dan S

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    I feel your pain. I’m in southern ct. you must be talking about Hoffmans. Try ct sporting arms in north Branford. He will order whatever you need if he does not have it in stock. If I want a certain powder, I’ll call him, pay and it will be in in a week or so. No hazmat fee.
    http://www.connecticutsportingarms.com/
     
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  3. mikeinct

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    Thanks Dan, My wife used to think I was crazy..Always buying stuff a year ahead..Now she is shooting & she sees one year of components is what it is...I just ordered 3K bullets for next year..& I'm sitting on 1500 or so ....The Sm Rifle Mag Primers drove me crazy enough to buy 70K from brother Dave here...Rifle Powder I'm good, but it is not easy managing this project for three shooters...Mike in Ct
     
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    A few weeks ago powder valley had br4's for sale with no hazmat, so I picked up enough for the no hazmat and 5k 450's. I dont think most local gun shops even stock 8# jugs of powder any more so I generally order powder/primers online. Though usually a local distributor has good pricing on powder so I get it there. Bullets I generally get from a local Williamsport shooter, Danny Frazier though. So I can test them and then buy a ton of the same lot.
     
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    It is hard to find special products on the shelf at most stores. They can't afford to have product sit on the shelf and are stocking for the majority of patrons, not the specialists.
    I think today, most of us who I would term Specialists, in that we use highly specialized products, are purchasing online.
    I would venture to guess that there are maybe half dozen online sellers that do the majority of the business. I have a list of them and have set up wish lists with each. So it is easy to go in and see who has the best price for the items I regularly purchase.
    Which reminds me. I need to order some Berger Juggernauts.
     
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    Be my guess too.]

    Where I used to live, 40 miles NW of Chicago, there were several shops/stores within a 20-25 mile one-way drive. None routinely carried what I was looking for back then, so I had to become dependent on on-line sources.

    When I moved up into west central Wisconsin late in 2013 I was glad to find a local guy about 20 minutes up the road who stocked a LOT of what I considered specialty stuff - bullets, powders, less so with primers - but only in smaller quantities and with prices considerably higher that what those on-line sources could sell at, even with shipping factored in.

    There's another mom & pop retail place two hours' east of me I buy powder from when I get over there (IF they stock it, which has been getting better than it was a year or more ago) or via on-line, but that's it.
     
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    It depends on the area. Haven't had any difficulty getting anything but Federal primers. Everything else including VV powder, 4350, etc. no problem. Have you considered getting with with your shooting friends and make a large order of powder and primers so as to split the hazmat and shipping?
     
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    The local gunshops mark up their primers and powder so much I could buy 1k primers and a pound or two of powder online and pay the hazmat and still come out ahead. If you can buy in 8# jugs or 5k primers there's absolutely no comparison. 55$ for 1k cci primers? 40 bucks after tax for a pound of varget? No thanks.
     
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    I live in the former " Brass Capital" and not so long ago there were 5 shops with in 15 minute drive, now there is one and he stocks almost no reloading stuff. Next closest is a 40 minute drive and his stock is limited. I refuse to go to Cabela's or Hoffman's CS is horrible
    and never have what I want or need.
    So now I do all my shopping right here from my computer, Powder Valley or Wiedners for powder and primers, what I save per pound more than makes up for Haz Mat and always buy 8lb. jug, primers 4-5000 at a time. Bullets from Bruno's 500 ct. boxes only always. Other supplies whoever has it in stock when I need it.
    As for guns the past 4-5 years been building my own local dealers will usually charge 15=20% over and make you wait until they are ready to place an order. So now when I hear them crying that business is way off I say to myself screw em they deserve whatever they get for the way they treat the consumer.
     
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  10. pirate ammo

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    what kind of federal primers you looking for, I'll send you ONE.finally got all the paperwork done to sell my building, goes on the market next week.Sell it, build my new one, all we're
    going to do is reloading components and blackpowder stuff. want a firearm, order only, as said before one big headache gone, don't have to worry as much about idiots breaking in.
    we do more in transfers than we do in firearm sales.
     
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    From what I've observed over the years, everything except maybe autos will move online. A friend recently bought a mattress and box spring off of a web site. Delivered to his door, never went to a mattress store.
     
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    you can buy a auto online right now, deliver to your door, CARVANA. they run an ad with a car vending machine,,:eek:
     
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    New name? Creedmore Sporting goods? (Yeah I know, but the wrong spelling gets you out of the copywrite problem!:eek:)
    New jingle for the radio adds? Ya get more at Creedmore!
    You know what we buy! Stock a lot of it!
    Are you taking the piggies with you?:p:p:p
     
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    I'm only moving 60 yards, but saving $4000.00 a year in taxes. as far as what most use here, yep, thats what we are looking at. just need more people in local counties to think
    about us.the pigs, if they come, I will shoot. got a lot of powder stepchildren to get shed of,ones that don't sell,,
     
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    It isn't that "people just aren't reloading like they used to". It's because like a lot of other people, reloaders are buying online and maybe this dealer just doesn't recognize it. A retail store can't buy these components much cheaper than you can online, so for those who think the dealers are "ripping them off", they simply have to charge enough to cover business costs and make a decent profit. Also, a LGS cannot afford to carry the variety that an online store like Powder Valley does, since they don't have the large potential customer base of an online store. And of course, this directs even more business to the online vendors. Just the way the market is going and another reason why local stores of all types are drying up, what with people's demand for extreme variety and the very lowest price available. It's rather ironic as I grew up in a very rural area and we had to order almost anything out of the ordinary from Sears & Roebuck. Looks like we're coming around full circle, only Sears is now headed to bankruptcy.
     
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  16. pirate ammo

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    100% correct,,
     
  17. mikeinct

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    I don't know guys...but, I know the retail business...Our last ten, twelve years in the game. We sold in the store & we sold online..some years 1/3 of our trade was online...Mike in ct
     
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    I'm an LGS and sell Varget for 32 bucks a lb with tax. Primers are 42 for 1k with tax.
    Not as much profit but I have a lot of customers that reload.
     
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    yea,me too,,Varget 30 bucks,,Fed.match primers 38 bucks,,but a lot of people around me would rather go to Cabalas and Bass Pro,,let them go I really don't care
    gives me time to do other stuff,,
     
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    Does Widneers even carry powder/primers? I cant find it on their website?
     

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