Warne maxima rings??

Discussion in 'Scopes, Optics, LRFs, Spotters, BoreScopes' started by FryeGuy, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. FryeGuy

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    who has used these type rings? I plan on using a zeiss conquest scope, and would really like to not mark it up. they are split top to bottom (vertically), instead of the typical horizontal split. they install on weaver style bases. not sure if they have a reputation for being excellent rings, so-so, or if they had flaws any of you guys may have experienced. Please let me know! thanks. they are the permanently attached type, warne part#201m.
     
  2. Larryh128

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    I use a bunch of Warne rings. I would highly recommend the Quick detachable rings. I use these on all of my main hunting rifles from a AR varmint to my main 300WSM. Take it off & back on, no loss of zero. I have never had a set ever mark a scope tube. Big advantage is that you can have a back up scope ready in case of a accident that takes the scope out of play. Big deal if you're hunting a remote area. Might take you 10 seconds to change it.
     
  3. MNFinn

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    I have permanent attach rings and really like them. My only regret, which is a small one, is that I didn't get the QD rings. But since I only have the 1 rifle and 1 scope it's not that big a deal.
     
  4. Hopkins

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    I have used them enough to have switched to them completely. The quick disconnect rings are vault solid. The Warne steel bases are a good product as well.
     
  5. JRS

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    It's hard to beat Warne rings and bases, other than getting into high dollar NEAR and SEEKINS rings. Warne rings are years apart from the chicom crap like burris and others. You would not regret it ;)
     
  6. BigDMT

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    Be careful if you are putting them on a cheaper rifle or cheap bases. If your scope mount bases are not perfectly in alignment left to right, top to bottom, the Warne rings have such a solid base that they can easily twist the body of your scope.

    I use them and they are nice, but there is no guarantee that you wont mark up a scope with ANY rings, expensive or cheap, unless you lap your rings. A wheeler scope ring lapping kit is fairly priced and worth every penny. You'll get a ton of use out of the kit if you have or plan on having a lot of scoped weapons. Plus easy to see if you are out of alignment or not just by placing the bar in the rings. Take care :)
     
  7. D-mon

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    Hi,
    I have seen 3 scopes being crushed by warne maxima rings. They were the simple split ones ( a nice Swarovski scope on a Steyr ssg, a weaver and a leupold onto weaver bases) so don't over tighten those screws!
    I have stayed away from them for the last ten years...till last week!
    Now I am just about to receive a pair of quick detachable ones because I want to mount a 30 mm scope very low on a base an they were among the lowest on he market. I just want to give theses one a try.
    Nic
     
  8. JRS

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    That's why one should adhere to the torque specs provided by the manufacture ;)
     
  9. FryeGuy

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    well I tried them. they didn't stay on very long. I tightened them with torque wrench. had everything perfectly lined up. went to set down the rifle all proud that I was finished and it looked good. and I heard a metal rattle. what the heck is that? a quick inspection to find it was the little metal piece that fits in the groove of the weaver style base. I thought at first I had not tightened it up enough at bottom to grip it well. so I did that, no help. I took the screws completely out of the top, and tightened the bottom as much as I could, no help. took the scope off, flipped it over, same outcome. I finally tightned up the ring without it even on the base or scope, that piece is just too short, it's going to rattle no matter what. so after several trips to multiple stores looking for something different, and not being happy with anything short of what I really wanted, I finally found them. GO figure it was the store I bought the gun it. I just didn't talk to the right person. they keep all the bases & rings in the back. first couple of guys just said the only thing they have are leupold, millets, weaver. So I just left, thinking I would use the warnes anyway (before I realized they were messed up). I went back over there on saturday, and my buddy that I usually deal with was there. he just said come with me. less than 30seconds of looking and there they are, and he made me a good deal too. Talley lightweight ring/base combo. base and ring all one piece, works great, no worries. it's my first set and I love them. I ended up buying a set for my father-in-law's M70 while I was there. In fact, I might start replacing the leupolds I have already. I just need to get more scopes first!!
     
  10. JRS

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    What kind of base were you using? I ask, because I just opened a new package of Warne maxima rings, installed them on the bases, torqued them to 25 inch pounds, and no rattle. With the dozens of pairs of Warne rings I have used over many years, I have never witnessed a rattling problem.
     
  11. Larryh128

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    Sounds like he might have lost the little spring.?
     
  12. JRS

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    oops ;D That would certainly cause the recoil bar to rattle :eek:
     
  13. FryeGuy

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    well I don't know what springs you guys are talking about, so i will assume you guys are talking about the quick release rings? I took a pic of how they came. neither had a spring in them. I just assumed by the design, that the two outer rings tightened up agains the cross-slot piece during installation. I don't see why if they machined a groove for the cross slot piece, why couldn't they have left a should there to rest in the slot? that would eliminate a problem. I just watched a video on how they mount up on the warne website. I may just call them about this issue.
     

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  14. Hopkins

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    At least in the QD rings the cross slot piece you refer to is held stationary when the rings are assembled. The cross piece I'm familiar with has a top and bottom so that it has to be oriented correctly to function properly. From what I can see in your photo that does not seem to be the case with the parts you show.
     
  15. FryeGuy

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    I did some more thinking on this problem. something had to be up with the setup. I had watched the video on Warnes' website on installing them, and I had done the same thing first time they did, so there was no magic trick to it. I checked both rings on a set of leupold rifleman bases I had just taken off of a family members model 70. both rings, and no loose cross-bar. this was just a trial run on a loose base. So I took the scope, bases, and rings off that I just installed on the model 70. put the leupold bases back on, installed scope, lined up everything, etc. perfect. no rattle. I knew it would work immediately when I tightened them up with the little torx wrench that comes with rings. that was before torqueing them down. if it didn't rattle before it wouldn't afterwards. went back and torqued to specs and perfect. I went back and measured the weaver bases, and one was a few thousandths wider than the rifleman bases and the other weaver base I had, so it is the obvious problem this time. I would bet that warne bases are held to a much tighter tolerance, and they match the rings. It was bugging the heck out of me. now I know. they look really good on their new home, hope they hold tight and the gun shoots well.
     
  16. JRS

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    Glad it worked out for you :) My reason for asking which bases you used is due to the difference in manufacturing and tolerances held by each maker. I have used Warne rings for many years, and have never been unhappy.
     
  17. FryeGuy

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    the set of bases that wouldn't work were weaver bases. they were both #47 for a browning a-bolt. one base was fine, the other one was wider, but not by much. they were both wider than the bases made by leupold (rifleman series). in the future when I use warne rings I will probably just use the warne bases. Warne rings are the only design ring that I can think of that this would be an issue with. burris signature zee rings have the long screw that doubles as the crossbar piece, as well as most other rings for weaver style bases. weaver makes a grand slam ring, that has windage adjustment for a weaver style base. it has a shoulder machined into the bottom of it which is a great idea, cannot believe no one else does this already. but the way the attach with one screw and angle piece on each side, just seems like a disaster waiting to happen. I am glad these warnes worked out, I really like the looks of them, and they seem to be a great design and tough to boot.
     

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