Vhita Vouri N160

Discussion in '6PPC, 6-6.5x47, 6XC, 6 Rem, 243' started by BEN243, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. BEN243

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    Anybody using Vhita Vouri N160 in their 243's with 85-100 bullets ... if so, how were your results ? Want to share any loads ? Ben
     
  2. Gary in MD

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    Can't help you too much with loads for the 243 Winchester. I have used it a little in my 243, but my rifle gave better accuracy with IMR 4350.
    I have used a lot of VV 160 in my 6mm AI. It is very clean burning and has given excellent accuracy and velocity.
    Hope this helps a little,
    Gary
     
  3. 1shot

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    +1 to what Gary said.
    I used to compete @ 1,000 with a 6SLR and V-V 160 powder. It is a very cool powder and if the conditions are right, I tend to shoot fast for a sling shooter. When it's time to clean all I would ever get is a few patches of grey and it was clean. BTW, I was, and still am shooting 105 gr. JLK's. When a better bullet comes along, I want a bunch of them.
    I hope this helps,
    Lloyd
     
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  4. BEN243

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    Thanks for the heads up guys. I think I've tried almost every powder known to man in my 243's, but always seem to drift back to IMR4350 ... because it just plain works. I've been hearing some very good things about VVN160, so I wanted to check it out. Thanks again, Ben
     
  5. 357Mag

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    Ben -

    Howdy !

    The new IMR4451 might also be worth a look.

    IMHO -
    Surplus " D85 " ball powder acts like " ball 4350 ".


    With regards,
    357Mag
     
  6. mongochicago

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    I use Vhitavouri N160 in my 6mm Remington with 105 gr Hornady match. Getting three inch groups at 600 yards just resting on top of a bag. This is the first load I threw together. Anxious to get out to sight in at 1000.
     
  7. ARW

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    Same here with the 6AI, I tried several other powders and the N160 was clearly the best, and very fast barrel cleanup also.

    My son always used H414 in the 243AI he had a couple of years ago. He got really good velocity and accuracy from it but I don't remember the load.

    Alan
     
  8. simon6ppc

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    ime using vit 160 with an 87 vmax in my 243 AI at the moment,,shoots awsum ragged hole groups at 100 yards, i also used it in my 243,,i put only 40 grains with a 87 vmax and it to shot little bug hole groups at 100 yards and dialed brilliantly out to 700 yards in my Tikka super varmint
     
  9. TorF1

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    The VV N160 has been used for decades in Scandinavia. In the old customized Krag matchrifles in 6.5x55 N160 low pressure loads was/is renowned for clean burning and exellent barrellife. A typical load was a 140/144gr bullet in front of N160 at 2400fps out of a 30" barrel would give 6 - 8000 rounds barrellife.
     
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  10. mongochicago

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    Re: Vhita Vouri N160 UPDATE

    Finally got out to the long range again. With the Vhitavouri N160 in my Ruger #1 in 6mm Remington with 105 gr Hornady match bullet, I obtained a 5 1/2" three shot group at 900 yards. The lull in the wind only lasted for the three shots.
     
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    Hi, I have a Ruger no 1 in 6mm. What was your n160 load? I am going to try berger 105 gr. I know to work up to loads safely etc
    Thank you!
     
  13. TNlizard

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    I have had good results with N-160 and berger 105 hybrids in my Ruger Precision. 26" 1:7.7, lapua brass and BR2 primers. 43.5 gr gets around 3100 fps with 3-4" groups at 600. 95 gr. tipped Sierras like 47-48 gr of n-165, but that's a compressed load.
     
  14. Laurie

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    Thanks for that information. Not the use of N160 in such applications - used it myself in 6.5X55 and 7X57 ever since it was first imported to the UK sometime around 1985 - but the barrel life information. I've always assumed that the old 6.5X55 military rifles would give that sort of round count with 40-45,000 psi loads and a cool burning powder, but haven't seen it quoted before from someone with relevant experience.

    On the original question, I can't quote loads, but N160 is very widely used in the UK in 243 with the heavier bullets. From next year, it'll be even more heavily used as all bar two Hodgdon 'spherical' powders lose their EU CE certification and all IMR powders likewise bar five new pistol grades and the four 'Endurons' on health & safety grounds. So nearly all imported powders that we get from the Hodgdon Powder Co. including every Australian manufactured ADI product will no longer be able to be imported here from next June.
     
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    I intend to try it in my 243 this fall. N-160 was clearly a standout powder in my 280AI and it seemed to burn cooler than anything else I tried. That is to say the barrel didn't get as hot as quick as with some other powders and I tried quite a few. It performed better with medium weight bullets for me in the 280AI. With the heavier bullets I had good luck with Reloder 26. I have to wonder about using that in a 243 as the bullets up around 100 grains are pretty heavy for a 243.
    Slower powders like a longer barrel and so do I, but my 243 is a 22" carbine.

    Edit: Laurie, can you tell us what the "health and safety issues" are with Enduron powders?????
     
  16. Laurie

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    You might note that N165 is cooler burning still and likely suits the 280AI.

    The 'Endurons' are OK - they're modern 'green' powders. We for our past sins (joining the 'Common Market' as it then was, the European Union today) are lumbered with new regulation after new regulation year on year on year. Amongst the most recent are new regs covering chemicals and chemical based products called Project REACH.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration,_Evaluation,_Authorisation_and_Restriction_of_Chemicals

    According to the people who've being doing the product evaluations, every Hodgdon rifle product bar H. Lil' Gun and (maybe) CFE223 (still being evaluated) and all 'legacy' IMR powders (IMR-4198 through to 7828) have nasty carcinogens in them and so from 01.06.2018, they are decertified making it a criminal offence to import them into any EU country.

    The 'bad' chemicals are present in very small amounts and are modifiers, deterrents etc. All European produced powders are compliant, it's only Australian, US and Canadian sourced powders that are affected.

    Health & Safety / the environment aside, this is a 100% typical EU protectionist move. Add onerous regulations that non-EU countries have to meet specially to sell to EU customers and their costs rise and they may well not bother anyway. I should add that propellants are only a handful of tens of thousands of products that have been evaluated and thousands that have had to be modified or withdrawn.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to explain to us colonist....haha! Bottom line, it's more of a govt. control thing than a real live danger of chemical components.
     
  18. mongo chicago

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    43.9grs. I get 2991 fps. avg. velocity
     
  19. B_Thomas

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    I am pushing Berger Hybrids at 3300fps with N160. This is John Whidden's receipt. Just tuned the jump to .030" Group tightened up into the .2's Next trip will be shot at 600yards. 5 shot groups, -.015, -.020, -.025, -.030 jump


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